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Old 01-21-2004, 08:46 AM   #31
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just write SCO on a piece of paper for me and burn it.

yes i've used the cdrecord that doesn't need scsi-emulation.
it makes me nervous.

i've used the new kernel too. on my machine it's not as fast
as the old one, but i'm using the Con Kolivas desktop set of
patches for responsivness. i went back to the old kernel.
Linux version 2.4.23-ck1
 
Old 01-21-2004, 08:48 AM   #32
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ICH4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hdaMA, hdbMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdcMA, hddMA

check BIOS setting... can u put IDE bus into native mode?
 
Old 01-21-2004, 08:55 AM   #33
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Originally posted by nesware
ICH4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA

check BIOS setting... can u put IDE bus into native mode?
I don't know about putting IDE bus into native mode, but I'll check into that. Whansard solved my issue there. It was the block stats that caused the problem. Thanks again for your help, also.

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Old 01-21-2004, 09:01 AM   #34
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just write SCO on a piece of paper for me and burn it.
Done. It just went up in smoke in the village behind me!
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yes i've used the cdrecord that doesn't need scsi-emulation.
it makes me nervous.
Can you tell me why? I just love burning from cli and most guys think I'm nuts. I'm new to *nix, as you can tell, but in it for life!
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i've used the new kernel too. on my machine it's not as fast
as the old one, but i'm using the Con Kolivas desktop set of
patches for responsivness. i went back to the old kernel.
Linux version 2.4.23-ck1
Can you explain this "Con Kolivas desktop set of patches for responsivness" to me? I'm interested in responsiveness, and willing to learn. You could just point me to a read. I'm also Google-ing, but like I said, "while you're on the line."

And, if you wouldn't mind, what does your nick mean?
 
Old 01-21-2004, 09:16 AM   #35
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do a google search for Con Kolivas. they are patches that make your system
more responsive when it is under load.

by nick, do you mean the first letter of my first name followed by my last name?
whansard. i think it just means, child or descendant of han. i'm in the US.
there is a town called Hansard in Canada. i think the parliment debates in
England are called the Hansard Debates. that's all i know.
i bet you thought it was "whan" "sard"

you can get the cygwin package with cdrecord and use cdrecord on the
command line in windows too. you'll freak out the windows people even more.

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Old 01-21-2004, 09:28 AM   #36
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do a google search for Con Kolivas. they are patches that make your system
more responsive when it is under load.

by nick, do you mean the first letter of my first name followed by my last name?
whansard. i think it just means, child or descendant of han. i'm in the US.
there is a town called Hansard in Canada. i think the parliment debates in
England are called the Hansard Debates. that's all i know.
i bet you thought it was "whan" "sard"

you can get the cygwin package with cdrecord and use cdrecord on the
command line in windows too. you'll freak out the windows people even more.
I Googled and read some of his stuff from LKML also. I've never applied a patch to my kernel. Would I do that before or after making the changes for the block stats, or just download and use that kernel with the ck1 extension you mentioned - or did you just add the ck1 when you compiled? My system is always under load, except when I'm asleep.

Yes, I meant your nick. Thanks! That would have kept me up all night
 
Old 01-21-2004, 09:35 AM   #37
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a kernel patch changes the kernel source code. it's easy to mess up.
i don't suggest you do it. but you can. i just have the first 4 patches
done.
it helps with stuff like when the disk writes and your mouse cursor jerks
when you are moving it in X. the mouse cursor always moves smoothly
with that patch. overall, it degrades performance slightly. but it's worth
it.
 
Old 01-21-2004, 09:42 AM   #38
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Originally posted by whansard
a kernel patch changes the kernel source code. it's easy to mess up.
i don't suggest you do it. but you can. i just have the first 4 patches
done.
it helps with stuff like when the disk writes and your mouse cursor jerks
when you are moving it in X. the mouse cursor always moves smoothly
with that patch. overall, it degrades performance slightly. but it's worth
it.
Thanks for the advice. I think, where I'm at with *nix at the moment, I'd better not apply any patches. I'm still trying to get all my hardware to work properly, and software replacements for stuff I used in W2K to produce work. Probably in the long run I'll keep a dual boot system, and use the OS that does the job best. Although I feel about M$ the way you must about SCO!

Thanks for helping me to solve this problem. I should post a link to this thread in my other thread about this problem.
 
Old 01-21-2004, 02:15 PM   #39
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What about this?

Quote:
from .config
Code:
# Partition Types
#
# CONFIG_PARTITION_ADVANCED is not set
CONFIG_MSDOS_PARTITION=y
CONFIG_SMB_NLS=y
CONFIG_NLS=y
And, in a belated response to your direct question:
I haven't got a clue ... never seen anything the like,
or -in other words- it works on all machines I've ever
had direct access to.

As for the question about the package fdisk lives in:
/slackware/a/util-linux*.tgz


Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 01-21-2004, 06:27 PM   #40
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What about this?
One difference - I have advanced set. I'll read config help and see what it does.
Code:
# Partition Types
#
CONFIG_PARTITION_ADVANCED=y
# CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_OSF_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_AMIGA_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_ATARI_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION is not set
CONFIG_MSDOS_PARTITION=y
# CONFIG_BSD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_SUBPARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_UNIXWARE_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_LDM_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SGI_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_ULTRIX_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SUN_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION is not set
CONFIG_SMB_NLS=y
CONFIG_NLS=y
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And, in a belated response to your direct question:
I haven't got a clue ... never seen anything the like,
or -in other words- it works on all machines I've ever
had direct access to.
What do you have under Block Devices for CONFIG_BLK_STATS? With my current 2.4.23 kernel, where fdisk -l bails out, I have it built-in. In my old 2.4.22 kernel, where fdisk -l outputs correctly, I have it commented out.

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As for the question about the package fdisk lives in:
/slackware/a/util-linux*.tgz
Thanks. I'm going to download it today and see if it that version of fdisk is newer than 2.12, and see if it works, before I recompile the kernel.

I have a lot of respect for you, and reading your posts over the last few months is a major reason why I switched to Slackware. I want to learn *nix, or Linux, and not just reinstall when I have a problem. I've got a long way to go, but it's a great journey!

Thanks for responding to me!

Cheers,
Bruce
 
Old 01-21-2004, 07:06 PM   #41
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chinaman
What do you have under Block Devices for CONFIG_BLK_STATS? With my current 2.4.23 kernel, where fdisk -l bails out, I have it built-in. In my old 2.4.22 kernel, where fdisk -l outputs correctly, I have it commented out.
Never enabled, I figured that that's a piece of
info which' retrieval will cause more overhead
than the practical value of the info would be
worth to me...


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I have a lot of respect for you, and reading your posts over the last few months is a major reason why I switched to Slackware.
Thanks mate, but I'm still learning every day ... :}
I just picked the "Guru" over the "LQ addict" because
I hope that I'm more often helpful than just trying
to add noise :}

Quote:
I want to learn *nix, or Linux, and not just reinstall when I have a problem. I've got a long way to go, but it's a great journey!
And I think this is the beauty of Linux ... I didn't
have to re-install my server in almost two years,
and only do minor security updates on it manually.
If I wasn't a eco-fanatic as well as a "penguin-hugger"
the machine might well have uptimes of over a year ...
which I've NEVER managed with a windows machine
that was used on a regular basis...

Quote:
Thanks for responding to me!
Always a pleasure, mate, and I'm trying to keep
track of the threads I'm involved in ... sometimes
not easy, though, so many questions, so little time! :D
As of next week my LQ participation will decrease
dramatically, too, since I've finally found a new
job :} ...

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Cheers,
Bruce
Cheers,
Tink

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Old 01-21-2004, 07:54 PM   #42
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Andrej,

Thanks a lot for your response. I'm trying now to slow down with my Slack box, and start reading. If I'd done that before, I'd have known about block stats. Same as you, I don't want or even need that.

I did way too much in a hurry to try to format c:/q Windoze out of my box. Got all emotional. What happened was, so many people here calling me with so many Windoze problems, 99% because of user error, and because of the way Windoze is designed. I just finally snapped! I quit teching, and won't build a new box unless they want Slackware.

Didn't know you were without a job. Glad to hear you've got a new one. Still programming?

Cheers,

Bruce ;)
 
Old 01-21-2004, 11:16 PM   #43
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thats exactly why i quit using windows completely. i was spending hours on the phone a day telling people to click crap, and it would take 45 minutes to figure out they couldn't do it over the phone, what i could do there in 20 seconds. after i quit using windows, people would call me and ask me something, and i could honestly say, "I have no idea."

It's been wonderful. i used to be a head computer tech at a computer store, and i quit
because i hated windows so bad. i thought windows was so bad that people would
give up and quit using it. i was wrong. microSCOft convinced everyone that they would fix all the problems in the next version. and people believed it, time after time. it got better, but there were 5 full years of misery.
 
Old 01-22-2004, 12:31 AM   #44
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thats exactly why i quit using windows completely. i was spending hours on the phone a day telling people to click crap, and it would take 45 minutes to figure out they couldn't do it over the phone, what i could do there in 20 seconds. after i quit using windows, people would call me and ask me something, and i could honestly say, "I have no idea."

It's been wonderful. i used to be a head computer tech at a computer store, and i quit
because i hated windows so bad. i thought windows was so bad that people would
give up and quit using it. i was wrong. microSCOft convinced everyone that they would fix all the problems in the next version. and people believed it, time after time. it got better, but there were 5 full years of misery.
It never ceases to amaze me how gullible, and lazy, people are in general. I will not rant about Micro$loth. It makes me want to kill!!!

I am acutally booted into Windoze right now, because my ignorant Sec.-Tres. sent me a very important file from America, and instead of doing what I asked her to do, she made a file in some .qpw format. Nothing I have installed in Linux (including Open Office) would open and convert it, so I came to this stinking Micro$loth OS and installed M$ Office 2000 just to try to convert it. But, that won't do it either. It seems that this stinking file is a Corel (haven't they gone belly up yet?) Word Perfect document, so I'm downloading a trial version.

Wanshard, maybe you know how much I appreciate your help. Because one of my main goals in life right now is to get my Slackware system to produce all the work I need, and then I can do a low level format on Billy's demonic OS.

Sony Clie SJ-33 w/Palm OS 4.1; Microtek ScanMaker 4850; GIMP (will version 1.3.23 print?) and PageMaker to print under Wine. And I think that will just about rid me of Billy's bull!

Ohhhh! The stinking Word Perfect Office 11 trial download failed!!!! What is Mirco$loth good for? Ggggrrrr!!!!! I told it to save to H: but the stupid OS has to put a tmp file on C: and there wasn't enough room for it on C:

Please, if you still use Winders, run for your life - while you still can!

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Old 01-22-2004, 01:53 AM   #45
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i think corel was making a linux version. i have word perfect for X version 8 that i
downloaded in 1998. that's been a while. i don't know if it still is available.
 
  


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