Hi,
Anyone know of a digital clock that would replace the Kde digital clock widget?
The one that comes with Kde starts Akonadi and I don't want that.
Thanks

The clock applet works just fine without akonadi.

As andrewthomas says, Akonadi has nothing to do with the clock applets in KDE -- but, unless you really, really have a use for it (or, you know, can figure out what the heck the thing actually does do), turn the blasted thing off (right-click and disable it) or, better yet
I've never seen anything useful the thing does and, at first boot after installation of Slackware, getting rid of it is one of the first things I do.

As with the little dancing dogs in the circus, Akonadi is one of those where the question is not how well but rather why at all.

Hope this helps some.

Clock widget won't load if akonadi is uninstalled, as i remember happening here. Though it can run without akonadi started.

I think i did how this snippet from the internet suggests to disable akonadi:

Akonadi is used by the clock plasmoid because it handles calendar events as well. Disable the calendar functions and it should not start Akonadi, although other PIM software might start it such as Kontact, Kmail or Kopete.

If you do not mind me asking, what is the problem with Akonadi starting? It is mostly stable as of KDE 4.5 and later versions.

Turning it off would be mostly pointless since any application that uses it will start it again.

This article mentions why http://vizzzion.org/blog/2010/08/demystifying-akonadi/

Cheers.

EDIT:
Be careful while doing that - read the following post and the one below it http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f...art=15#p167712

Don't mind at all -- the thing starts indexing everything (and keeps doing it) and, frankly, I don't want all that information indexed nor do I want to pay the price in disk space or processor load for something that I wouldn't ever look at anyway. It is not a convenience to me, it's more like television commercials and, consequently, I just get rid of it and I don't get bothered any more.

Strigi is the indexer.

B-b-but, without television commercials, how could you ever possibly realize how much every male over 40 (apparently) needs either viagra or cialis, otherwise wives won't be able arrange flowers in the background as hubby smiles at the camera?

cheers,

Hi,
And thanks for the replies.
I should've mentioned that I've upgraded to Alien's Kde 4.6.5 from the Slackware stock 4.5 Kde.
Veeall is right, the clock widgets will not load without Akonadi.
Klickback is also right, it's the calendar feature of the clock that uses Akonadi.

And the clock would be the only software that starts Akonadi as I don't use any other Kde apps that make use of Akonadi.
And I've tested it, by removing the clock, and Akonadi no longer starts.
But then I had no clock and that I found annoying. I do want a clock in the notification area.
I DO NOT want a clock on the desktop (just in the notification area).
I've googled extensively for a kde clock without Akonadi but haven't found one yet.

I'm aware of the potential benefits of database backend and I'm not a minimalist (although some might call me that).
And I've been using Kde as my main desktop since version 1.x (although I've used others too).
But on the other hand I like running a system that does not squander resources needlessly and since my addressbook is a few hundred entries at most I don't see a need for SQL server to manage such a small dataset.
But the main issue why I'll never use Kde application is that I've always been against applications that lock my data to a specific desktop environment so I will never use apps like Kmail, Kpim, Kontact etc, I use platform independent apps for my data like Thunderbird (with Lightning extension for calendar) for email and addressbook etc.

I even uninstalled the kpim packages and that's when I noticed that I lost the clock.
But my task list was quite a bit shorter than before so I looked more closely at what's going on and noticed that besides Akonadi, you also and up with Akonadi-agents, one for each possible data source and they run whether you use the data sources or not (so you end up with Akonadi-agent for Kaddressbook whether you use the addressbook or not).
I can understand the design of this but I will never agree with the implementation. I don't understand why I have to run an agent for an app I don't use. That's a sloppy and lazy programming.

I was willing to live with Kde after I disabled all the Akonadi crap but the loss of the clock and it's dependence on Akonadi is a deal breaker. And I was still willing to live with Kde if I could find an alternative clock.

Anyway, I'm running Xfce now and looks like I'll stay with it for a while. Gnome has been dead to me for many years and looks like Kde will soon follow it.
I still have Kde packages installed but I'm already starting to compile a list of apps that will replace the Kde ones.
I was frequently using kcalc, kpdf, Gwenview, kruler, ksnapshot, kdiskfree, kwrite, and most of all Konqueror as a file manager, which I miss the most.

But Konqueror is broken anyway in Kde4 and they are not fixing it. I've grown tired of the bug that left deleted folders still visible in the tree pane. That bug can easily lead to data loss and it should have been a showstopper bug.
I don't like Thunar, I just can't respect gui apps that have no toolbar, I don't like right-clicking and prefer a well customizable toolbar.
But I may have to settle for Thunar and MC combo (for accessing smb shares) for now until something better comes along.

Anyway, my original question still stands, as an Akonadi-independent clock is still needed. If not for myself then maybe for someone else.

How about SimpleClock. Note:

Thanks for your help.
I already had all that researched but I'm sure others will find those links helpful.
But you're wrong about Akonadi being stable.
And the combo of Akonadi, Nepomuk, and Strigi is a sure way to turn a Linux beauty into a Vista-like monster.
Yes, as a computer tech I've had the displeasure to work on many Windows Vista computers that have the hard disk grind non-stop and cpu load never goes to zero.
I don't want my Linux install behave like that.
So Kde is not stable, far from it, and it's now even more of a tangled mess.
I also noticed that Akonadi agents would crash when Nepomuk was disabled but those agents were still used by other components.
And it's a very bad first impression seeing the message in console after exiting Kde saying "agent crashed too many times ..."
And then Akonadi is the last one to close and still hangs console.

The articles (some from Kde devs) are full of grandiose promises and visions how wonderful all this integration will be and how it'll turn our data into something magical.
Well I don't want it if it's force-fed to me and choices are taken away.
And right now I have no use for it anyway.

All I want is a simple desktop with icons and it's nice to have different wallpaper on each virtual desktop.
But they've taken that away too, again replacing it with something called "activities" and you can no longer have different wallpapers on virtual desktops.
And they've taken away screens too so dual monitor setups now work as the same desktop instead of independent screens (desktops) which may not matter to too many people but it was something I was using.
So they've taken away EVERYTHING I was using and found good about Kde and in return gave me a big headache and none of the new stuff I have any use for and never will.
Ok, enough ranting.

OK, then, how about xclock? Been around since the Romans were in charge and works just fine (on any X display).

I'm wondering though, down there in the lower right-hand corner sits the clock/calendar (no, not a "clock face") just ticking away -- and I blew away Akonadi long, long ago.

All right, maybe not since Julius Caesar but at least since about 1980-ish.

Thanks bosth.
I didn't see that one.
Unfortunately it's for Kde 4.7 which I don't have yet and am not planning to mess with upgrades any more for a while.
I've settled with Xfce for now and my goal has become to be DE independent from now on so I'll be working on compiling apps that don't depend on any DE in particular.

The first thing I do on a fresh install is remove akonadi and disable nepomuk, and strigi and my kde clock always works perfect.

Alien does have 4.7.1 out, which is a painless upgrade from his 4.6.x packages ... not that I'm trying to push you into it or away from Xfce. I understand and sympathise with the statements above.