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Old 03-27-2007, 12:59 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by masonm
That's easy. In Beryl Manager you can choose the window manager. Just choose the one for your DE and it will hand off window management to that program instead of Beryl. Peace of cake as they say.
I'm confused, honestly I didn't use compositing very long because of the above reason, but what your saying I can tell beryl to shut off when program "name of program" starts? If yes, I have beryl running right now, I don't see an option for that.

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Old 03-27-2007, 01:13 PM   #47
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I'm confused, honestly I didn't use compositing very long because of the above reason, but what your saying I can tell beryl to shut off when program "name of program" starts? If yes, I have beryl running right now, I don't see an option for that.

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No, you have it turn Beryl off yourself using the Beryl Manager. If you right click the system tray icon for the Beryl Manager you should see a menu option for selecting the window manager. Just select the one for your desktop environment and it will switch to that instead of using Beryl.
 
Old 03-27-2007, 01:52 PM   #48
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OK, I'm still tinkering with Beryl and trying some additonal edits to xorg.conf. Here is my current xorg.conf that is working fine with Beryl.

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "TouchPad" "AlwaysCore"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "glx"
Load "extmod"
Load "xtrap"
Load "record"
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "freetype"
Load "type1"
Load "synaptics"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us,us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Driver "synaptics"
Identifier "TouchPad"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "LeftEdge" "1700"
Option "RightEdge" "5300"
Option "TopEdge" "1700"
Option "BottomEdge" "4200"
Option "FingerLow" "25"
Option "FingerHigh" "30"
Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
Option "MaxTapMove" "0"
Option "VertScrollDelta" "0"
Option "MinSpeed" "0.09"
Option "MaxSpeed" "0.18"
Option "AccelFactor" "0.0015"
Option "EdgeMotionMinZ" "0"
Option "EdgeMotionMaxZ" "0"
Option "EdgeMotionMinSpeed" "0"
Option "EdgeMotionMaxSpeed" "0"
Option "EdgeMotionUseAlways" "0"
Option "UpDownScrolling" "0"
Option "LeftRightScrolling" "0"
Option "UpDownRepeat" "0"
Option "LeftRightRepeat" "0"
Option "LockedDrags" "0"
Option "RTCornerButton" "0"
Option "RBCornerButton" "0"
Option "LTCornerButton" "0"
Option "LBCornerButton" "0"
Option "CircularScrolling" "0"
Option "CircScrollDelta" "0"
Option "CircScrollTrigger" "0"
Option "CircularPad" "0"
Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
Option "SHMConfig" "on"
EndSection



Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize 300 230 # mm
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "QDS"
ModelName "44"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "ColorKey" # <i>
#Option "CacheLines" # <i>
#Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
Option "DRI" "True" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoDDC" # [<bool>]
#Option "ShowCache" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvMCSurfaces" # <i>
#Option "PageFlip" # [<bool>]
Option "TripleBuffer" "true"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "i810"
VendorName "Intel Corporation"
BoardName "Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "True"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
Modes "1024x768" "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
# Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group 0
Mode 0666
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
 
Old 03-28-2007, 04:33 AM   #49
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I followed the guide http://wiki.thoughtbit.com/linux:slackpkg:xorg-7.1 . Did everything explained there but still cannot get composite to work with dri support.
Code:
$beryl-manager
kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed
Fontconfig error: "conf.d", line 1: no element found
QFont::setPointSize: Point size <= 0 (-3)
By the way I don't have dropline installed. Should I?
 
Old 03-29-2007, 05:12 PM   #50
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Dropline isn't absolutely needed but Beryl is going to complain about missing deps. You can just install them by hand instead of installing Dropline.
 
Old 03-29-2007, 09:19 PM   #51
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The installed Beryl in my system
Code:
[shrikant@shricore64 ~]$ yum list installed | grep beryl
beryl.x86_64                             0.2.0-1.fc6            installed       
beryl-core.x86_64                        0.2.0-1.fc6            installed       
beryl-gnome.x86_64                       0.2.0-1.fc6            installed       
beryl-kde.x86_64                         0.2.0-1.fc6            installed       
beryl-manager.x86_64                     0.2.0-1.fc6            installed       
beryl-plugins.x86_64                     0.2.0-1.fc6            installed       
beryl-plugins-unsupported.x86_64         0.2.0-1.fc6            installed       
beryl-settings.x86_64                    0.2.0-1.fc6            installed       
beryl-settings-simple.x86_64             0.2.0-1.fc6            installed
 
Old 03-30-2007, 07:55 PM   #52
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OK. I'm tentatively interested, and this looks like a very 'berylic' thread.. But have a few questions which I haven't really been able to decide on, baased on what I've read in the various beryl threads, nor on the Compiz or Beryl websites because my silly browser won't install flash player for me, for some reason unknown to me as yet. (Please, very simple short answers will be fine )

1 - Which is better, Compiz or Beryl?
2 - Which Compiz release would you recommend, 022-Stable or 036-devel?
3 - What if I don't like it/want to remove it; has it entangled itself into my system like IE into Windows? (lol)

I've already downloaded Beryl (latest) but will wait and see and read more till I figure out which to use.
Thanks folks!

EDIT: Either way, it looks like this thing invites more bugs and issues than it's worth, at this time. I'm sure it looks really cool, but I'd rather stick with the functionality I have now.
Maybe when it's officially stable and installable, I'll come back to this.

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Old 03-30-2007, 08:57 PM   #53
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@ GrapefruiTgirl
Beryl seems to have more features in its default install, and with the aquamarine package you can use standard kwin window decorations. (Emerald I believe has a lot of GNOME dependancies. and I've never used the other one (I forget its name))

Compiz is supposedly more stable, but it seems a lot more GNOME-centric as far as configuration options go. I could find very few HOWTOS for KDE (A breif one was posted earlier in this forum)

The 0.3.6 version of compiz is in Slackware -current, and is not very crashy on my system. It should be safe-ish.

As far as (un)installing them, I would suggest writing up some SlackBuilds for the programs and making some installpkg-able *.tgz's.
Read this thread for some example action and a Generic SlackBuild that you can modify to your needs.

Or consider src2pkg or Checkinstall

Last edited by truthfatal; 03-30-2007 at 09:06 PM.
 
Old 03-30-2007, 09:07 PM   #54
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Truthfatal, thanks very much for your informative post. I like words like 'crashy' and 'safe-ish' even if they are less than inspiring!
I used to have Dropline-Gnome installed, but got a little tired of some tiny issues with it, as well as having so many applications installed that did the same thing as each other.
On your suggestion, I have been procrastinating when it comes to learning how to turn stuff into slack-packages.. I do have a lot of non-slack stuff installed, and I really really should make my life easier down the road my turning them all into slackpkg-able packages.
Checkinstall I am familiar with a little, and I have downloaded but not yet looked at src2pkg.
As far as the uninstallableness of something like Beryl, I would hope it is less of an ordeal than Gnome was---it infiltrated everything! That is just too MS-esque.
PS- The other one is called 'heliodor' I think is what you were looking for.

LOL, Now I'll quit hijacking this very-beryly thread and thank you again for that information Truthfatal, I appreciate your input and comments.
And next---back to Beryl...
Sasha
 
Old 03-30-2007, 10:40 PM   #55
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I installed it all from Slack packages. I provided the links to the download site and the How-To site on page 2 of this thread. It just takes a bit of xorg.conf editing to make it all work which is nothing a Slacker can't handle.

One note, if it doesn't work in KDE for you, delete ~.kde/ and ~kderc.

As it provides the option of running the Beryl window manager or the native window manager you really can't lose. Worst case you wind up with a newer, modular xorg version.
 
Old 03-30-2007, 11:59 PM   #56
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i can run the beryl wm but not the settings. when i do i get this
Code:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/beryl-settings", line 22, in <module>
    import berylsettings
ImportError: No module named berylsettings
 
Old 03-31-2007, 11:03 AM   #57
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looks like python to me, it's looking for a module called berylsettings. Is there any py-berylsettings package ?
 
Old 03-31-2007, 11:09 AM   #58
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It looks like one of the beryl settings packages wasn't installed.
 
Old 03-31-2007, 11:30 AM   #59
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nope i have beryl-settings beryl-settings-bindings and beryl-settings-simple
 
Old 03-31-2007, 12:47 PM   #60
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does 'beryl-settings-bindings' include bindings for python ?
 
  


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