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Old 01-05-2008, 03:22 PM   #1
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Another slacker! :)


Got back a while ago from helping a client. Same one that gave me this 350 mhz machine.
For a while, I had her using PCLinuxOS, which she got used to. After being given a computer from her son, she tried using Xp. She needed some help from me getting things set up. Finally she asked if I could put linux back on for her since Windows was so "weird".
Since I don't have a current pclos cd on hand, I described Slackware to her and she said put it on.
Monday, I will bring her computer home and install Slackware 12 on it

I explained how she could have both systems installed because she needed the windows program that helps make her greeting cards and stuff besides some other programs.

Just wanted to share it
 
Old 01-05-2008, 03:28 PM   #2
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Good. Check if it's possible to run that greeting stuff with wine.
 
Old 01-05-2008, 03:32 PM   #3
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Hi,


You know, this is an interesting post because your client said 'windows was weird', it makes me remember the lots of times I've seen some linux-new-comer saying that Linux is weird, and the reason for that? he previously knew windows...

Is interesting because that makes people realize that there's no such thing as a weird system or a bad system or the like, there are just differences, and usually, we think that the 'non-weird' system is that one we know



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Old 01-05-2008, 04:08 PM   #4
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Well, you have to admit, there are many things about Window$ that don't make sense ... unless of course you take the point of view of Bill Gates (or Gate$).
 
Old 01-05-2008, 04:26 PM   #5
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Well, you have to admit, there are many things about Window$ that don't make sense ... unless of course you take the point of view of Bill Gates (or Gate$).
Good point indeed



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Old 01-05-2008, 04:35 PM   #6
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I explained how she could have both systems installed because she needed the windows program that helps make her greeting cards and stuff besides some other programs.
Suggest to her to try scribus for her greeting cards.

Brian
 
Old 01-05-2008, 06:50 PM   #7
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Suggest to her to try scribus for her greeting cards.

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I will do that even though I don't know much of anything about it either
 
Old 01-05-2008, 07:49 PM   #8
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Suggest to her to try scribus for her greeting cards.

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Hey, thanks for the tip:-) My daughter's 5th birthday is coming up and I needed greeting card software to make invitations for her party (I don't run windows). Just grabbed scribus from slackbuilds.org, it looks good.
 
Old 01-05-2008, 09:16 PM   #9
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Between the gimp and scribus, you can do amazing graphics and layouts.

Brian
 
Old 01-06-2008, 04:53 AM   #10
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baby's comparison of wi/li

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You know, this is an interesting post because your client said 'windows was weird', it makes me remember the lots of times I've seen some linux-new-comer saying that Linux is weird, and the reason for that? he previously knew windows...
That is not amazing. A good friend of mine points to a survey where it was discovered that command-line interface is much more intuitive than graphical. But when a user gets used to graphical, you all know what happens.
What have I noticed about slackers: no fear of command line.

Yesterday I installed a Slackware on my former classmate's machine. And what do you expect? He immediately found golf-game in KDE and spent half the evening playing it, involving his little 10-years-old sister. She said "wow... Linux is a great deal. Is that a default game for the system?.. Wow... Windows can suggest nothing of this type."
 
Old 01-06-2008, 06:58 AM   #11
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Hi,

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That is not amazing. A good friend of mine points to a survey where it was discovered that command-line interface is much more intuitive than graphical. But when a user gets used to graphical, you all know what happens.
What have I noticed about slackers: no fear of command line.

Yesterday I installed a Slackware on my former classmate's machine. And what do you expect? He immediately found golf-game in KDE and spent half the evening playing it, involving his little 10-years-old sister. She said "wow... Linux is a great deal. Is that a default game for the system?.. Wow... Windows can suggest nothing of this type."
Not debating! I would like to know how the cli would be intuitive? If you don't know the commands or simple syntax of a command then you will get no where. Do you have a link to that survey?

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He immediately found golf-game in KDE and spent half the evening playing it, involving his little 10-years-old sister. She said "wow... Linux is a great deal. Is that a default game for the system?.. Wow... Windows can suggest nothing of this type."
Most gaming does take over the person! Sure the simple of it seems to be the entertainment value. I'm not a gamer. My wife likes them but she won't have a game system because of the addiction. She says too much wasted time for her.

I guess my system(s) maintenance doesn't count?
 
Old 01-06-2008, 07:31 AM   #12
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What have I noticed about slackers: no fear of command line.
true

my only hesitation with the CL is having to type in long commands, because im lazy! and after that one can get around future inconvieniences with bash history, scripts, etc.

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Old 01-06-2008, 09:16 AM   #13
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That is not amazing. A good friend of mine points to a survey where it was discovered that command-line interface is much more intuitive than graphical. But when a user gets used to graphical, you all know what happens.
Ehhhrr....ok

No offense, but I don't see how is that related with what I've said =/

Nor I can't see how the CLI is more intuitive than graphical environments, I mean, if you get in gnome from the first time and you see at the topbar 'Applications' you think 'ohh..that's where the applications should be, let me check', if you are in the command line for the first time and see '[user@host]:$_' how is that more intuitive?




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Old 01-06-2008, 09:37 AM   #14
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Not debating! I would like to know how the cli would be intuitive? If you don't know the commands or simple syntax of a command then you will get no where. Do you have a link to that survey?
OK, I'll ask him where he got it, now I'm interested in it too.
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I mean, if you get in gnome from the first time and you see at the topbar 'Applications' you think 'ohh..that's where the applications should be, let me check', if you are in the command line for the first time and see '[user@host]:$_' how is that more intuitive?
Here it comes. Just a question. How did you get familiar with computers? Did you use graphical or CL interface? The intuitiveness of cl is in it's simpleness. Just command -- answer, command -- answer, and so on. You don't need to learn much, don't need to learn how this happens. You just need to know which commands are there. Where -- doesn't matter for an end user, they are at the $PATH.
Which is easier? To get along with CL or with graphical? Which is faster. The key simpleness lies at the base of CL.

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Old 01-06-2008, 09:42 AM   #15
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if you are in the command line for the first time and see '[user@host]:$_' how is that more intuitive?
Press TAB key twice? :-)
 
  


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