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Old 11-18-2012, 01:58 PM   #16
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Why not install Mepis 11 and then install Gnome through Synaptic? It comes with version 2.30 and is very stable. I use that setup myself on one of my desktops, and was able to go 140+ days without rebooting.
 
Old 11-18-2012, 02:34 PM   #17
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This was my motive for posting this: a faint hope that MEPIS will stop forcing me to use KDE 4 (or find another distro).
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I'd rather just find a distro that doesn't include KDE 4 at all. If you want MEPIS at all, you have to deal with KDE 4 at least briefly.
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I'm not--not anymore. I want nothing to do with KDE 4, and avoid distros that even include it.
In Mepis 11, I just add Xfce or Fluxbox or something and use that, but I guess your hatred of KDE4, even just to use it long enough to get something else installed, would keep you from doing something like that.

Debian is a great option, I know it takes longer to install, but you only have to install it once, not that big of a deal.

Otherwise, I've also used SalineOS for quite some time. Easy installation, comes with Xfce, otherwise it's pretty much like using Debian. And it looks like Crunchbang is another good Debian-based option. And I think Ubuntu is good, too, but I don't like using Linux Mint anymore.

Good luck.
 
Old 11-18-2012, 03:11 PM   #18
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In Mepis 11, I just add Xfce or Fluxbox or something and use that, but I guess your hatred of KDE4, even just to use it long enough to get something else installed, would keep you from doing something like that.
There's a reason. I find KDE 4 more troublesome than it should be to clean out of the system entirely; the messages during my purges and installations of software indicate that it leaves files and folders behind that I have to locate and delete. This may bbother me only because I'm somewhat obsessive-compulsive. But for MEPIS 12, if I like everything else, I'll at least consider putting up with the mess KDE 4 leaves me to clean up.

I am trying to get comfortable with Xfce. I've used KDE Trinity ever since MEPIS switched to KDE 4, but the more I use Trinity, the more I notice its subtle flaws; so I want to eventually abandon it. (It doesn't help that KDE Trinity, apparently having been designed by the creator of Kubuntu, behaves like a *buntu distro in certain ways.)

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Old 11-18-2012, 03:36 PM   #19
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There's a reason. I find KDE 4 more troublesome than it should be to clean out of the system entirely; the messages during my purges and installations of software indicate that it leaves files and folders behind that I have to locate and delete. This may bbother me only because I'm somewhat obsessive-compulsive. But for MEPIS 12, if I like everything else, I'll at least consider putting up with the mess KDE 4 leaves me to clean up.

I am trying to get comfortable with Xfce. I've used KDE Trinity ever since MEPIS switched to KDE 4, but the more I use Trinity, the more I notice its subtle flaws; so I want to eventually abandon it. (It doesn't help that KDE Trinity, apparently having been designed by the creator of Kubuntu, behaves like a *buntu distro in certain ways.)
Have you tried the Lxde desktop? Like xfce, its lightweight but far less buggy and a bit more user friendly. See if you have the option to install the lxde desktop from your software manager.
 
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Have you tried the Lxde desktop? Like xfce, its lightweight but far less buggy and a bit more user friendly. See if you have the option to install the lxde desktop from your software manager.
Thanks, but if I were to use a lightweight desktop, I like IceWM. I'm going to try XFCE as my replacement for KDE.
 
Old 11-18-2012, 03:54 PM   #21
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I find KDE 4 more troublesome than it should be to clean out of the system entirely
Why even remove it, unless hard drive space is an issue? It doesn't slow anything down just because KDE stuff is still there, if you're using Fluxbox or Xfce or whatever. Even if you still use some of the KDE apps, the whole thing is A LOT faster running them under Xfce or a light WM. That's what I see here, anyway.
 
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