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Old 12-15-2004, 10:03 PM   #1
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Why all the network problems (10.1)?


So, I put Mandrake 10.1 on my "sacrifice drive"...a drive I use to try out various OSs. I change the boot order in my BIOS to boot the MDK 10.1 OS and try it out. Install went well...no issues. As soon as I try to browse the web...sorry, "blah" cannot be found. No internet, no ping, no SSH, nada. I poked around in this Mandrake forum and the networking forum only to find that no one solution solves everyone's problem, yet there are many, many people who have the same problem. What gives? For me, I was able to browse the internet after disabling the firewall, which I only allow SSH and Samba through. This is not good. For others, it was tinkering around with settings on their home network router. Some had to disable IPV6. I have a Linksys router at home and have had no problems with any other distro prior to MDK 10.1, including 10.0. I also could not connect to the internet at work running MDK 10.1. For both work and at home, I am using the built-in ethernet on my VIA KM4M mainboard. So what's the scoop? What is so drastically different between 10 and 10.1 that the simple task of browsing the web becomes a troubleshooting session from my Windows laptop? I am eager to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
 
Old 12-16-2004, 04:08 AM   #2
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Bump. Come on all, I would like to hear from anyone having/who had problems with 10.1 and their ethernet connection. Thanks.
 
Old 12-16-2004, 04:16 AM   #3
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Stable, stable - able, able

That's why I'm staying with my beloved 9.2 the best yet from Mandrake
Stable platform !
I think the best of their releases
 
Old 12-16-2004, 05:51 AM   #4
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Hi, is the firewall running on your Mandrake machine and/or the router?
If it's the firewall on the Mandrake machine, perhaps there was a security issue with 10.0 regarding traffic they locked down for 10.1?
A good place to look may be Mandrake's changelogs for 10.0 -> 10.1

Which machine is the SSH/Samba client/server running on? Do you know about ports and such?

Are you using the same security level as you were with Mandrake 10.0? Remember if you whack the security up, it can block functionality.

10.1 has worked a treat with my home machines.

Also, you mention you use the same mainboard at work and home. Is it the same physical box you take to and from work?

Do your home and work networks use the same settings (auto / static)?

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Old 12-16-2004, 06:41 AM   #5
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When you go through MCC, network tab, does eth0 show up in anything?
If not try using the new connection tab and set eth0 as default connection port.
 
Old 12-16-2004, 06:51 AM   #6
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idea !

As written up my post check first if you have eth0 up'n runnin'
Second I think is best to drop the default firewall and if you want security on you linbox write a good iptables script (no more headaches)

Take a little time to see what ifconfig has to say !

that's just about all that crosses my mind right now
 
Old 12-17-2004, 02:28 AM   #7
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Thanks all for sending your ideas. I will post my comments and thoughts in a day or so. Of course, one solution would be to stay with 10.0!
 
Old 12-17-2004, 06:21 PM   #8
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OK, I forgot about a crucial error during the installation process. After going back and looking at my install notes...there it was:

Bad port 1024-1100/tcp

I got this error after enabling the firewall. In addition, it seems the built-in firewall settings (in "Configure Your Computer"/Security") does not remember what you select/unselect. This seems like a bug. This implies that I would have to set up a firewall via iptables, which I am not too familiar with doing.

"Do your home and work networks use the same settings (auto / static)?"

Both home and work networks use DHCP.

"Also, you mention you use the same mainboard at work and home. Is it the same physical box you take to and from work?"

No, they simply have the same main boards, graphics and sound cards.

"Are you using the same security level as you were with Mandrake 10.0?"

Yes

"Which machine is the SSH/Samba client/server running on? Do you know about ports and such?"

The SSH/Samba client/server is running on the home PC, which is running MDK 10.1. Yes, I know about ports.

"is the firewall running on your Mandrake machine and/or the router?"

I have a firewall running on the Mandrake machine, which sits behind a Linksys wireless/wired router.

"Second I think is best to drop the default firewall and if you want security on you linbox write a good iptables script."

I think this is way to go. ifconfig output shows the correct IP address and domain name server IPs. Off to write an iptables script I go. Thanks to all. Does the default/built-in firewall issue seem like a bug?

Last edited by buldir; 12-17-2004 at 06:22 PM.
 
Old 12-17-2004, 07:08 PM   #9
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I run Mandrakelinux 10.1 here.

My box is behind a Linksys Router with wireless endpoint.

I configured my Internet connection in MCC as a LAN connection configured via DHCP.

The default firewall is enabled (shorewall) from within MCC.

All works a expected here . . .
 
Old 12-17-2004, 10:38 PM   #10
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I've been having similar problems, and I have tried a million different configurations. Ive tried just about everything i can think of, with no luck. I thought maybe it was my onboard Marvel lan, but i dont think so, because it has the driver and all. It just doesnt seem to be activating my ethernet card.
 
Old 12-18-2004, 02:24 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by ernie
I run Mandrakelinux 10.1 here.

My box is behind a Linksys Router with wireless endpoint.

I configured my Internet connection in MCC as a LAN connection configured via DHCP.

The default firewall is enabled (shorewall) from within MCC.

All works a expected here . . .
This is an unfortunate aspect of the Linux OS. People who have similar hardware can have two totally different experiences with Linux and may or may not get things to work properly. This is obviously true for any OS, but I think more so for Linux. The notion that Linux is highly configurable and can be tweaked to one's needs may be a disadvantage for another. It is unfortunate that a solution to solve an apparent inflexible problem is to simply choose another distribution.
 
  


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