hold on!!

dont leave a distro because of that! whats so hard about opening konsole, typing su and the root password and then halt or reboot?? well if you plan on using it as a web server then u dont want to to be turning it off all the time and if somebody cant turn the box off then its because you choose not to tell them the root password... and maybe he shouldnt be using that machine at all..

i dont see what the big hassle is abt typing 3 lines to shutdown... but the call is yours...

mandriva does come with apache php and mysql... which is perfect for a web server... well many other distros have them as well... anyways... your call

cheers

it's not all about that. I am using this as a learning tool, it won't be used as a dedicated server. Iwant to be able to do all kinds of things with it, and other people WILL be using it. So I need something others can use without hurting it, and that I can teach myself how to run a server on, among other Linux functions. Mandriva 2006 just doesn't seem to meet those requirements, where I think others do. I am going to be trying Slackware this weekend, as well as Redhat and Mandriva LE2005. I'm open to using any of them that works...I'm not dedicated to any distro so any of them that provide the things I'm looking for, I'll keep around for a while.

Hi, I'm a complete noob so please bear with me.

I've tried installation in paranoid, higher, high and standard, each time reformating the partition I tried installing Mandriva 2006 in (okay, I know I don't need . However, in each case, I still did not manage to get a shutdown button.

Thanks for the info on how to shutdown from terminal window, it's been ages since I used Unix or Linux environment.

Any possible ideas and help on the shutdown button ? :P I like my buttons.

Why not just create an icon on your menu, that runs a simple script... 'shutdown now'?

Oh good point. I completely forgot about scripts. However, can I manipulate the icon to appear in the menu somehow ? Where is the menu code located ?

You sure can. Access your menu. You'll see a configuration sub-menu. I forget where exactly, but look around. You'll find a Menu editor, which you can use to add the script. Or, if you want it on your taskbar, simply right click on the taskbar, and create it there. Depending on your installation, you might need to run the script as root. IN which case, you'll need to make sure the script executes with root permissions. All of which is also easy.

Thanks! I'll give it a look around and see what I can come up with. Cheers!

Something just occured to me. This is the menu in the user session right, not the menu in the login just after reboot and will imply that the user has to login before he can shutdown?

Sorry for asking the most mundane of questions :P


Thanks.

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Linux never needs to shutdown, it can run 24 hours a day for years. Therefore it doesn't need a shutdown button. Also, it knows you would be lost without it so it is protecting you by not allowing you to "kill" it.

Linux will always be there for you, throughout the rest of your life.

This is a new feature they will be putting in all the new releases. It's the beginning of Linux taking over our lives.

That what Cadence says when it was found that version 4.5 was not compatible to version 4.4 :P --> It's not a bug, it's a feature hehehe.

Yup.

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Guess what. As of last night, I now have the shutdown option in Mandriva 2006 where I didn't before!!!!!


MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So how did I do it? I'm sure you're all dying to ask :P

Actually, I dunno.

But there are some suspects. Hehehe.

I think that the problem only occurs when someone has dual operating systems running on the same computer. And typically, they run linux as their secondary operating system. This is my first assumption.

The main suspect is therefore the choice of something like "boot sector or something installation". Since it made no sense that some of us got shutdown and some didn't then naturally it must have something to do with our installation choices. And since others have already posted that choice of packages have no effect, then the only culprit must be that choice.

Choose to install the "boot thingy" in the beginning of your drive instead of in front of your partition. I think this will solve your problems. If cannot, please do not blame me cuz I'm just a newbie.

Errr.... how to fix it so that it is okay even when install in front of the partition ? Dunno. Must look at source code of Mandriva so you will have to find somebody else :P


Cheers.

p.s. :

If someone still has problems, then I guess one of us can try to reinstall and then post all our install choices for you and then if you follow them to the dot you will also have the shutdown option.

Then if you want to manipulate anything from configure comp or configure whatever later on, the shutdown thingy will probably still stay around after that.

djsilent
ignore the morons who have nothing intelligent to say

its not a Mandrake feature, in fact - it's a feature of all distros that have KDE at least, and it can be altered, so dont stress OK.

you need the Mandrake login manager
these instructions will work for Mandrake 10.0 which I use
but 2005 and 2006 shouldn't be too different

Go >> main menu
go >> system
go >> configuration
go >> KDE
go >> system
go >> login manager
enter root password
click-on the "shutdown" tab
in the box marked "allow shutdown"
under "local"
select "everybody"

I have had your problem before
and this usually cures it
I'm not sure what causes the problem
but it has nothing to do with dual-booting
nor the master boot record

let us know how you get on
cheers
floppy

I know I may be slightly neurotic, but that's just part of my charm

I'm not sure whether djent is still following this thread but in any case, I tried the shutdown options prescribed by you and did not find them to affect the shutdown button appearance or disappearances. Maybe it's because I've already got them now as opposed to not having any button option before in the login menu and the start menu once login.

The only difference after manipulating the shutdown scheme was that I am not prompted for a root password whenever I want to shutdown. And after changing back to shutdown for everybody, a window now pops up asking me to confirm my request.

So it just looks like a manipulation of permissions. Perhaps someone else who has the shutdown button "Missing In Action" problem can test this out and see whether it will prompt the appearance of the button option ?

Otherwise, maybe you can try to install Mandriva 2006 in some partition and test master boot.