Well I did a fresh install of mandrake because I think I screwed some stuff up trying to compile and add depencies manually. Right after the install I added the rpm sources and did "urpmi --auto-select" when I came back this morning I rebooted and found that a bunch of stuff was broken. Konqueror, Kontact, all that had disappeared from the task bar. I went to change my background by right clicking and going to configure desktop but the "background" icon wasnt there, so I went to system->config->kde->looknfeel->background and it said that "a third party applet is missing". Any idea of what is screwing everything up? This was only a problem after doing the update on everything so the following info shouldnt cause any problems. Heres what I did to update xorg and get the radeon drivers working.

First go here http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
Follow the steps, the only thing to really be careful about is make sure you only do one statement at a time when you are cutting/pasting; don't just cut and paste the whole box.
Then do this as root

urpmi.addmedia thacs.rpms http://mirror.aca.oakland.edu/rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS with hdlist.cz

Then do this

urpmi xorg

It should come back with a list of about 10 packages, I'm at work right now so I'm not sure what the exact name is but I think it's the first one on the list. Let's just say its xorg-x11 and do this

urpmi xorg-x11

It should give you a list of other xorg files you need to download so just type Y and hit enter and it should take care of the rest. Once that is installed go to the ati site and download the drivers for xorg. Uninstall any fglrx drivers that mandrake has intalled using the package manager. As root install the new driver package.

rpm -Uh fglrxsomething.rpm

If this says it conflicts with something then do

rpm -Uh fglrxsomething.rpm --force

Then run

fglrxconfig

to set everything up. If you have a mouse with a scroll wheel do this.
emacs /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Add this to the mouse section
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"


Reboot and run fglrxinfo to see if everything looks right. I get much better performance with the xorg drivers rather than the xfree drivers. Unreal runs a lot smoother and a glitch in tux racer where the screen would pause for a second was fixed. good luck, it wasnt really that difficult to do, just took a lot of time to find everything I needed.

You performed a full update from Thac's RPM's, which is why you lost the Panel Icons.

You merely need to drag them back from the menu.

The only major thing I've seen Thac's RPM's break (so far) is Xorg XKBD support.

But this is probably due to differences in Xorg more than anything else.

Well went I clicked on the "home" icon konqueror doesn't come up Yea I'm just gonna update xorg for now until I know more about what to update.

Well i got everything working now. Instead of forcing xorg to install from thrac just add thrac as an update source. "urpmi.addmedia --update <thracaddy>" and do urpmi --update xorg-x11 and it should update it without boning you over. Make sure that the fglrx drivers are uninstalled before you do this or else it will tell you theres a conflict. Then just install the ati drivers and cross your fingers. It wasnt too hard, and I learned a lot along the way

Edit:
hah found out that my system is still using mesa drivers, time to try and fix some more crap!

Hi My very first post, brand new to mandrake just today BUT i have information 8)


Just a note on the mesa driver issue.

The ATI driver has its own internal AGP management for Intel chipsets. If you don't have an Intel chipset, change the "UseInternalAGPGART" option to "no" in the device section of the xorg.con file, then restart Xwindows and you should be golden.



Things to note:
Make sure you have the Kernel source code or at least the Kernel header (include) files and the GCC compiler installed. if you don't you will also get mesa for open GL.

I have a Athlon XP 3000+ and the ATI 9800 128 meg card. You will be pleased when you do get it working cause these drivers are the best ATI has put out for linux to date.

This is my GLXgears in mandrake 10.1 using the new ATI drivers, Since its not any real benchmark just a test to insure things are working this is with the gears minimised. In compairison to older driver results these are over double the FPS then any of the previous ATI drivers.

$ glxgears
50436 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10087.200 FPS
50162 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10032.400 FPS
50254 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10050.800 FPS
50037 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10007.400 FPS

Thrac has definitely become the "Texstar" of release 10.x.

He's posted a slew of new releases since I put up the link, including a new KDE 3.3.2 tree.

Note: his ndiswrapper release does not work with the original Mandrake kernels, but may work with the new 2.6.10 kernels he is providing now.

Yes that site is VERY usefull and i want to thank the participants of this thread for all information they shared that helped me get my first time install of mandrake up and running like i want it with out any issues.

I did the above and all is working fine, excpet for one thing, my sound service is now broken! Alsa loads up fine but the sound server just freezes and blocks the bootup procedure. Any ideas why this has happened and how to restore the sound service? Thanks!

OK, so running alsaconf from a console sorts out the problem and I have stopped the sound service from running so I can reboot easily but I don't want to have to run alsaconf on each bootup, any ideas people?

I have also experienced that problem, but I have seen that the Home icon inside the KDE menu works. This happend to me after I upgrade to KDE 3.3.2 (using the thacs repository).

I'm testing this at work as I write this using a MDK installaiton on a vmware box: Delete the Home icon, and KDe will create a new one...

another way to solve the missing home problem is to input the following into the command textbox under properties (on the "Application" tab)

konqueror --profile filemanagement

basically the program link is deleted during the upgrade, this just puts the link back in.