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Old 06-06-2008, 10:01 PM   #46
2damncommon
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It's too short. Returning a few minutes later to fix a typo results in that silly "Last edited by ... "...
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Hard to word. Closest I can get - it's like "price reduced" tag.
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OK, now I know what I do not like about it. Enforcement.
Let's sum it up.
I do not like anything enforced on me.
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Doesn't add up. First, this "Last edited ..." tag is saying "we do not trust in you", then, how do you verify the reason I put there is not a lie?
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IMHO this tag is offending for some members and serves (in current configuration) no useful purpose.
Dude, if you make a post that needs to be edited it is no one elses fault.
The "edited by tag" only does what you insinuate it does in your own mind.
I have absolutely never felt a post had "reduced value" or "that the member was "untrustworthy" based solely on seeing that their post had been edited.
Get real and if you are so offended by such a simple notice make sure your posts never need editing. In otherwords make the message irrelevant.

EDIT:This post has been edited!

Last edited by 2damncommon; 06-06-2008 at 10:04 PM.
 
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Old 06-07-2008, 06:16 AM   #47
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Thank you, everybody, for explaining me I'm wrong. In medieval time people like me were killed by people like you, just because I'm different. So I guess I must be happy to be alive now.
 
Old 06-07-2008, 03:05 PM   #48
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Thank you, everybody, for explaining me I'm wrong. In medieval time people like me were killed by people like you, just because I'm different. So I guess I must be happy to be alive now.
"Wrong" is far too harsh a word for this. You have a different opinion to the rest of the responders. I don't know, off hand, what the appropriate word is, but "wrong" isn't it.

And we stopped killing people for having a differing opinion a few years ago - it was too time consuming
 
Old 06-23-2008, 08:26 AM   #49
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Well,I want to say my opinion even if this thread is a little old and I got a reasons for it because that "last edited by..."which shows up in less then a minute is annoying to me because it shows up in a less then a minute and because of one more reason about which I will say something at the end of this post.
I agree with Emerson that 1 minute is too short and in my opinion there shouldn't be "last edited by..."until there's a first reply.For example,if you need to correct just one word then you have to say what for and why did you made a correction and that's typing and typing again and unnecessary.Someone will say you don't have to type a reason for why did you edited your post but then there would be no responsibility at all from me to anybody who is reading my post,isn't that so?
And about my other reason,I didn't see Emerson posting anything lately.Could it be that we have lost a senior member who contributed to this community so much and I'm saying this because I remember many of his posts that were helpful to so many people,not because that "last edited by..." yes or no thing,then because of the way some people replied to this thread.
And I will say it,some people,members of LQ really need to start working on their communication with other people and thinking twice(at least)before they reply.
Emerson,I hope you will come back here,if for nothing else then for all those newbies who need our help.
Peace.
 
Old 06-23-2008, 10:59 AM   #50
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Thank you for your kind words, alan_ri.
Not sure if I deserve them though, I try to help people, true, but I tend to go into "biting mode" when I see unwillingness to do the homework.
I'm not blaming jeremy for his "declaration of distrust". I've been a business executive myself and know you never can please all customers, even if you sell the best goods for best price. So this is up to him to make rules, enforce them and run his business in the way he thinks is the best. Period.
What I really didn't like here [in this thread] is total lack of tolerance and diversity some members and moderators showed.
I'm still helping newbies, I signed up on linuxforums.org, my post count there is close to 100 as of today. So, my tiny contribution to Linux world is not lost.
Peace.
 
Old 06-23-2008, 11:13 AM   #51
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First, I'm not sure why you call it a "declaration of distrust", I'd see it as the opposite. Openness and transparency are fundamental to Open Source. That being said, I'd actually be fine with a "no edit message until 1 reply" rule, but the software does not support that as an option. It's possible we can add it as custom code, but with the current TODO it would be quite some time realistically.

To address the issue alan_ri brought up, I'd agree - some of the replies in this thread do not reflect the spirit of what LQ is and should be. I've actually addressed some of it privately, but am happy to comment publicly as well. One of our core goals here at LQ is to facilitate the use of Linux and Open Source, both for new users and experts alike. Being friendly and welcoming is absolutely critical to that. I know it's easy for longtime members to sometimes forget what it's like to be a new user, but on the whole I think you'll find LQ to be one of the friendliest places of its size. We work very hard at that, but there is always room for improvement and always lessons to be learned. I also think that if you look at the track record of the LQS&F forum, you'll see we listen to feedback extremely closely and take member suggestions very seriously. While we don't implement every suggestion we get, feedback has been absolutely critical to the success and growth of this site.

--jeremy
 
Old 06-23-2008, 11:49 AM   #52
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I'm still helping newbies, I signed up on linuxforums.org, my post count there is close to 100 as of today. So, my tiny contribution to Linux world is not lost.
Peace.
Let me see if I got that right:

You've been around since 2004,doing 2600+ posts and now figure out that the 'last edited' thing is bad enough to quit

Last edited by crashmeister; 06-23-2008 at 11:51 AM. Reason: removed secret message to Bill Gates aka. The great satan
 
Old 06-23-2008, 12:55 PM   #53
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Jeremy,every word you've said is right and I know Emerson didn't mean it litearally when he said "declaration of distrust",so Emerson,just keep up your good work here on the LQ no matter what somebody says and I know that Jeremy will do everything he can to make this site better by his best judgment and for that he need and will need help from all of us,LQ members.So let's show some unity and love here,after all,we are all special just because we are using Linux distros,so let's respect each other and let's try to bring the best of open source,here,on the LQ.

Last edited by alan_ri; 06-23-2008 at 12:57 PM. Reason: grammar
 
  


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