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Old 07-30-2014, 12:20 PM   #1
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I'm not much for introductions... but, hey why not?


This thread would actually be a few days late, as I've already been posting here and there for past few days.

For all intents and purposes, I am a "newbie." But Linux isn't exactly new to me. And I mean beyond the fact most of the people of the world use Android/linux or some other variant in devices here and there.

Wayyy back in second half of 1996, I got some exposure to UNIX (during the short time I was in Chambana). Learned a few commands here and there. The X w/Motif GUI was beautiful on those high (at the time) resolution screens. Very clean and crisp looking. Also thought it was cool that I could terminal into another workstation and others could do the same to the one I was physically at. Always wondered if I could "use" up all the terminals on a single workstation or even multiple workstations by daisy chain logging in from one terminal into another and then another, etc. And I'm definitely not admitting to having done it. hehe... wait, I mean

Of course, UNIX isn't the same as Linux.

Oh, in case anyone was curious about how I got into computers... my sister had passed onto me an 8088 clone that she had gotten from our uncle who worked as a consultant at the time. And the very first thing I did... thought to myself what does "format c:" do? And promptly typed it in on a very nicely personalized setup (it had a "startup screen" via start.bat of Bart Simpson!). Let's just say, that's one hell of a way to get started with learning about computers. D'oH!

Eventually, a few years later... 1998? I decided to get that "UNIX"-like experience back... of course, UNIX wasn't available for the public... but Linux was. And so... I ventured into the world of Linux.

I think I found a (old at the time?) copy of Slackware 96. Got it to install and learned to recompile the kernel and the oh-so-time consuming task of rebuilding the entire system again and again after making a mistake or figuring out another module (like getting the sound card to work, weeeeee), and eventually do a little C/C++ programming on it (for a class I had at the time). I mentioned this in the first post I made on this forum... for the life of me, I couldn't then, nor now, figure out how to use "vi" (effectively). Instead, I find "pico" much more comfortable and more than sufficient for my needs then and now (so far). Unfortunately, I yearned to play games, games and more games... and lets face it... in terms of sheer quantity of (professional? commercial?) games, Windows had Linux beat. And even with dual boot going, I had very little reason to suffer the time consuming task of shutting down Windows and booting into Linux when I could do everything I needed to do, in Windows. And so, my time with Linux came to an end.

Over the last decade or so, I did occasionally want to go back to Linux and did try out Unbuntu/Kubuntu for a bit. But of course, the games I wanted to play simply weren't available on them still.

That brings us to July 2014.

I'm thinking about going back into programming both for Linux/Android and possibly iOS (and if lucky, make a little money off of it). To that end, I added a few mSATA drives to my Sager NP8255-s w/Win8 laptop and popped in a "new/old" buddy... Slackware. Of course, new being version 14.1. For now, it's just basically installed... still need to go through everything to make sure all the hardware is setup. Apparently, my old adversary, the "sound card" has returned. Well, KDE played some notes when I started X, but still got some tweaking to do to play my music collection. After that, proceed to get a programming environment going.

So, here I am. Let's see how far I go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 07-30-2014, 01:35 PM   #2
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Howdy and Welcome. Will kick back and watch you go.
 
Old 08-02-2014, 07:09 PM   #3
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So last night, I decided to wipe out my system and do a fresh install... And I have no idea why I did that.

During the install, I decided to let network manager handle the wired/wireless (in the previous installs, i manual set inet1.conf and supplicant.conf)... During the install it says that to configure or whatever, to use the widget in KDE... Red flag!!!

Learned to use "dd if=/dev/sdc2 of=/dev/sdc3 bs=4096 conv=notrunc,noerror,sync" command.

On first attempt in KDE, it prompted me to enter the passkey... Okay, no problem.

Reboot... Went to KDE again... Wouldn't connect until i erased the connection and re-entered the key.

Quit KDE to the command prompt, attempted ping.... Sure enough, the red flag from earlier got proven... No ping, no network.

Ran netconfig, but never bothered to see if it disabled network manager (i think i have to do it manually in some file, right?).

Ran dd again and promptly went to sleep (7am... )

With that being the case... I'm gonna wipe it out again tonight and leave network settings up to inet and supplicant like I did before (i saved a copy of supplicant.conf to my main storage drive to save me the headache of re-typing the 64 hex key or anything else in that file). Then do the dd command from there.

Though, I just realized, this is a laptop... Might have trouble with other wireless networks beyond my own.

Yay...
 
Old 08-02-2014, 11:20 PM   #4
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Howdy
 
Old 08-03-2014, 12:48 AM   #5
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I gotta say... what a little bastard... stupid networkmanager.

So, with just networkmanager, I can dynamically connect to a wireless network from inside KDE... drawback, NO ACCESS outside of KDE (terminal).

Switched back to plain netconfig... have access from terminal and inside KDE... but can't dynamically change it. I can set up multiple blocks for multiple wireless networks, I suppose, but that's a major PITA for the passkey.

Managed to find/install wicd... looks good so far, the advantages of both network manager and netconfig... but I'm a bit worried, the last time code was updated was 2 years ago. Is this abandoned?
 
Old 08-03-2014, 11:07 AM   #6
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Hello and welcome.

Try to limit the wording to G rated please. (just me being me)
 
Old 08-05-2014, 07:22 AM   #7
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Had me a little bit of difficulty with wicd initially... when I first installed it, it worked fine then I shutdown the laptop (don't have a need to keep it on). The next day, wicd refused to work automatically or manually in kde, until I manually ran wicd-client (after a few failed attempts at adding support for multiple wireless networks to supplicant). Now it seems to work.

The other night I tried, tried... tried some more, but still failed to play MP3 in Amarok. Couldn't "./configure" gstreamer ugly 1.4.0 due to an error message (about version not found)... tried install gstreamer base 1.4.0. Configure/make/make install seemed to work, but ugly still refused to configure (either i need some extra parameters, editing somewhere or to uninstall the older gstreamer, dunno). Finally, I tried installing an older version of ugly, 0.10.31 (seemed to install)... but Amarok still won't play mp3/m4a (which is the entirety of my 40+ GiB music collection)... sigh.

MPlayer and Xine (and other players) all seem to have weird little quirks... namely, they refuse to output to my sound card. Xine outputs to a file... others either "play" silently, or flat out error out. Amarok will play audio (.wav anyway) fine.

OOH... just managed to configure XMMS to play, but had to kill Amarok (apparently it locks up the sound device). Reminds me of Winamp.

While I don't get embarrassed asking for help, I'm not posting such a thread simply because I'm sure the solution has already been posted somewhere, just gotta find it.

Last edited by Goobers; 08-05-2014 at 07:37 AM.
 
Old 08-05-2014, 11:21 AM   #8
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Still watching. I use xmms usually exclusively in my AntiX, MX-14, and Puppy installs.

For other installs I use Audacious in place of xmms and choose winamp style from options.

For movies I use mpv with mplayer and moc or cmus for a cli music player.

My streaming media center in my motorcycle shop that I made digging electronics out of the dumpster
plays shoutcast radio streaming rock and roll stations through a 200 watt per channel old 1970's
Pioneer analog amplifier to home built speaker hanging from the shop ceiling.

The media center is also a linux playtoy (like reading a magazine) for dudes waiting on me.
 
  


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