non-KDE & non-GNOME software

Okie · 11-28-2005, 02:05 PM

dillo web browser

ripperX for making mp3/ogg from music CDs

mplayer or xine do not require either kde or gnome

NEdit text editor

rox file manager

gaim IM, gqview, gimp, xchat only require GTK+

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firefox bloated? huh?

jaakkop · 11-29-2005, 02:03 PM

reddazz · 11-29-2005, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by jaakkop
Yeah, as someone may have noticed, firefox has become what we didn't want in the first place: bloat. So I'm looking for a browser that ain't bloated. In KDE I use Konqueror and in GNOME I use Epiphany, but what could I use if I don't have neither KDE or GNOME.

Personally I don't think Firefox is bloated, but agree that epiphany and konqueror are very good alternatives. When I use GNOME I switch between epiphany and firefox.

Other apps that don't need gnome libs:

gftp
adobe reader
realplayer

tuxdev · 11-29-2005, 02:23 PM

I found dillo as well as the best alternative to Firefox on a Pentium 100. I also like abiword for word processing and abs for spreadsheet. Abs might be a bit simple though.

ssfrstlstnm · 11-29-2005, 03:00 PM

I don't think firefox is bloated at all. Dillo may be smaller, but it has a long way to go. Last I checked it doesn't even have support for ssl. Firefox is the best web browser for linux.

Midnight commander file manager isn't pretty, but it is very functional. I don't use it much because I do most stuff at the command line, but I still have found it to be very good for some tasks requiring lots of file transfers.

emacs, vim, avidemux, mplayer xmms, grip, fpm all good stuff

tuxdev · 11-29-2005, 03:07 PM

Have you ever tried to use Firefox on a Pentium class processor? It takes 30 secends to load and 3 seconds per page. It spends about 5% of the time get data from the internet and 95% to render it. And about 90% of my browsing doesn't need SSL or other features it may be missing. Granted, that Firefox is definitely a step up from Mozilla, Netscape or IE.

AdaHacker · 11-29-2005, 04:32 PM

I recommend Opera for web browsing. It's much faster than Firefox on low-spec systems. It has tons of features but is still surprisingly light-weight.

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Originally posted by tuxdev
Have you ever tried to use Firefox on a Pentium class processor? It takes 30 secends to load and 3 seconds per page.

Only 30 seconds? On my old K6 500MHz, it took more like 45 to 50 seconds. I never bothered to time the page loads, but they were slow to the point of being painful. Apparently KDE + Firefox was just too much for it, although KDE + Opera worked well enough.

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Originally posted by ssfrstlstnm
emacs, vim, avidemux, mplayer xmms, grip, fpm all good stuff

FYI, GRip now depends on GNOME.

foo_bar_foo · 11-29-2005, 09:32 PM

you should build firefox yourself and make it not bloated and optimized for your system.
come to think of it you should build it's underlying libs as well and make them optimized too.
come to think of it you should build the underlying libs to the other underlying lbs -- so on and so forth.

tuxdev · 11-29-2005, 10:02 PM

I don't have enough space for all that source. My approximate figures were rounded faster and on Slackware 10.2 using IceWM. I wonder if 1.5 would do better...

jaakkop · 11-30-2005, 07:47 AM