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Old 10-26-2007, 02:22 PM   #1
Lola Kews
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KDE vs Gnome question.


When I installed SUSE I went the KDE route basically because I was told to, LOL.
Question: When there is a program one wants but it's referred to as Gnome software, can it be converted to KDE without any "negatives"? Did I even ask this question right?
 
Old 10-26-2007, 02:45 PM   #2
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If you install it using Yast, it should find the applicable "Gnome" libraries the program depends on and install them also. Then you can just run the program from within KDE.

Basically, when a program is referred to as a "KDE" program, it just was built on the KDE libraries. Same thing with "Gnome" programs...
 
Old 10-26-2007, 02:49 PM   #3
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Assuming all dependencies are met, you can run any programs in kde (or gnome, or xfce, etc.). The potential problem is that "gnome programs" may have dependencies which are not installed on your computer if you did not install gnome. The other issue you may face is that gnome programs load slower in kde (and vice versa) because required libraries are not pre-loaded. Once they start up, however, performance should be pretty much the same.

Personally I have both installed. That way I have no problems compiling the programs I want. But I don't switch into gnome to run the "gnome programs" (or into kde to run kde programs).

Brian
 
Old 10-26-2007, 03:26 PM   #4
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Assuming all dependencies are met, you can run any programs in kde (or gnome, or xfce, etc.). The potential problem is that "gnome programs" may have dependencies which are not installed on your computer if you did not install gnome. The other issue you may face is that gnome programs load slower in kde (and vice versa) because required libraries are not pre-loaded. Once they start up, however, performance should be pretty much the same.

Personally I have both installed. That way I have no problems compiling the programs I want. But I don't switch into gnome to run the "gnome programs" (or into kde to run kde programs).

Brian
I think I should have identified the program and as I said, when installing it sort of gave me a 1 or another option, I was told KDE, so that is the direction I went.
Don't get the idea I know what I'm doing, I am learning, but slowly!

The program is Fire Starter, which is supposed to be a really good firewall type program that is easy to set up (which I need). It is in the SUSE 1-Click library so I guess I will just go in that direction.
Thanks to all for there replies and help.
 
Old 10-26-2007, 03:56 PM   #5
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The only other thing about doing that is the fact that using apps written for different DEs etc. will by nature cause you to use more memory because many more libraries will be loaded at once as opposed to being more uniform in the apps you choose.
 
Old 10-28-2007, 01:14 PM   #6
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Using SUSE 10.3.

I went to the SUSE 1-click site and downloaded the program (FireStarter), then I went into YaST, under "System" there is a button for installing software. It works because I just finished installing a program called transmission (torrent type).
When I tried to install the program (FireStarter) it worked for a couple of seconds and then just jumps out of YaST on it's own back to the firefox screen. Evidently I need the Gnome environment loaded also as BCarey said above but I don't know how to go about it.
 
Old 10-29-2007, 12:21 PM   #7
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Assuming all dependencies are met, you can run any programs in kde (or gnome, or xfce, etc.). The potential problem is that "gnome programs" may have dependencies which are not installed on your computer if you did not install gnome. The other issue you may face is that gnome programs load slower in kde (and vice versa) because required libraries are not pre-loaded. Once they start up, however, performance should be pretty much the same.

Personally I have both installed. That way I have no problems compiling the programs I want. But I don't switch into gnome to run the "gnome programs" (or into kde to run kde programs).

Brian
Brian how did you install both? Is that what I have to do to be able to use Firestarter? Please explain further.
 
Old 10-29-2007, 02:30 PM   #8
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Brian how did you install both? Is that what I have to do to be able to use Firestarter? Please explain further.
I don't use SUSE, I use Slackware, so I don't know the best/easiest way for you. Did you try with YAST as pljvaldez suggested?

Brian
 
Old 10-30-2007, 02:11 PM   #9
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I don't use SUSE, I use Slackware, so I don't know the best/easiest way for you. Did you try with YAST as pljvaldez suggested?

Brian
No, I used the new SUSE 1-click system to install it. It seemed to do it right down to putting a FireStarter icon in the programs under the Lizard head.
I opened YaST into the "adding software" section and it said that all dependencies had been met.
However when I go to the programs under the Lizard Head and click on the program it asks me for my YaST password, when I enter this it jumps out of yast back to the firefox screen like nothing was ever asked!
I really do need this program bad because the SUSE firewall program is so screwed up It's pitiful and I do not have the expertise to set it up correctly. I would rather learn "FireStarter" and then I will know what I'm doing (hopefully) with other versions of Linux.

I could try installing it again (through YaST) if someone could give me specific instructions relative to SUSE 10.3. If you think you have the answer to this problem please don't hesitate to jump forward, because at this point I'm dead in the water so to speak!
 
Old 10-30-2007, 03:22 PM   #10
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I don't know where else to look for the list of dependencies for firestarter, so heres the list from Debians package search..

Packages should be the same names as in Suse (disregard version numbers), so you can see if they are all installed, or if anything is missing...

http://packages.debian.org/etch/firestarter

Last edited by farslayer; 10-30-2007 at 03:24 PM.
 
Old 10-30-2007, 05:13 PM   #11
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How about using guarddog (http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/) which is built for kde.

Brian
 
Old 11-03-2007, 02:33 PM   #12
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How about using guarddog (http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/) which is built for kde.

Brian
BCarey, I'll check it out right now. Things are just not coming together on what I currently have. Thanks for the link.
 
  


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