I have had a miserable time finding a browser that renders fonts correctly.... or even close to IE. I use the soon-to-be-renamed Phoenix and it is awesome! Tabs and popup blocking rule! It's very fast, too. I will give the XFT thing a try though.

btw, Oprah er, Opera sucks.... banner ads suck and the pages look crappy.

Dillo is the fastest graphical web browser ever. period.
Mozilla for power, Phoenix is the great all-around web browser.

just my .02

Yes, I am very pleased with the features in Phoenix: popup blocking (except for some very clever popups a large New York City newspaper has succeeded in inflicting on readers of its website...); tabs that are extremely useful; beautiful and easy to change themes, etc.

If I ever get fonts improved I'll be even happier!

Is anyone else having problems seeing the screenshot??? I put the public url's for each. If this one doesn't work i give up.

Also, here are the instructions on compiling your own phoenix with XFT fonts if anyone is interested.

Opera?? lol, I downloaded that once and ended with a screen filled with banners and other stuff that i didn't even want to look into. The web page filled about 20% of the browser, the other 80% was ads and other stuff. I don't see how people can pay for a browser.

Thanks, the screenshots are visible now.

I'll look at the font information in hopes of learning something! :-)

since there seem to be a couple new people to phoenix, I thought some of these links may be useful:

http://komodo.mozilla.org/pub/phoeni.../latest-trunk/
#nightly build

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/
#project page

http://texturizer.net/phoenix/
#lots of goodies

cheers

Does anyone have a clue what the Phoenix FAQ at
http://texturizer.net/phoenix/ means by making a "personalized build" from mozilla and phoenix sources for XFT support? I'm not finding any phoenix source code to download?

http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/sourc...er/README.html

maybe that will help.

Read the directions I posted...has step by step directions to doing it

Strange--on the Phoenix help page (and thanks, Cuckoopint, for the nice links)--it says a bug makes bookmarks unable to be imported or exported.

I guess this means "automagically" imported, since the first thing I did after installing the "stable" Phoenix a few days ago was to furnish it with my Mozilla bookmarks, by means of creating a user file (following instructions on the Phoenix pages).

I hope that statement won't put off a lot of users from trying out Phoenix. I know I'd be inclined to say, "Forget it," if I had to start all over with bookmarks.

I maximize the browser window, right click the ad section and put it on the bottom, then I move the window so that the ads are off the bottom of the screen and then drag the top of the window up to the top of the monitor- free Opera & no ads!

I open Mozilla. Free Mozilla & no ads!



Nah, whatever people like. I just don't get it.

I preferred Opera till I came to Linux and lost the decent fonts it had in Windows (and I'm not advanced enough to carry out the involved fix for this). I still would prefer it because of its nifty tabs only Mozilla has just as good tabs, and Phoenix has even (considerably!) better ones. If Phoenix, or whatever it's going to be called finally, is really the future of Mozilla, it's a bright future. I hope they get it so that "mailto:" works, though; and it would be good if there was a way to "send a page" as there is in Mozilla.

> It was more a dig at text browsing. Haven't done that for about 8 years.

I haven't done it it about a week.

Got a better idea, when you're telnetted in to another machine?