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Old 04-07-2003, 05:07 AM   #16
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IE my favourite!
 
Old 04-07-2003, 07:54 PM   #17
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Originally posted by digiot
Extortionists.

Nah, seriously - I just like Mozilla and Phoenix. If all browsers cost money, I'd understand Opera charging but I'd still buy Mozilla. But almost all browsers don't cost money and so it just blows my mind.

Mozilla for power; Phoenix for speed; Lynx for text.
Lynx for text?? What is that??
 
Old 04-08-2003, 12:52 AM   #18
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Go Opera...

Trust me - it's way worth the $$$$
 
Old 04-08-2003, 01:02 AM   #19
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I tried Phoenix after reading about it in this thread, and loved it immediately. I could open all the news sources I normally read every morning with one click, each in a separate tab! And there were other things I liked about it.

But after a few days it started freezing up when I tried to go to www.gist.com for tv listings, and the only way to close and reload it was to kill it, then kill the processes left over (seen via ps -aux) and then reload Phoenix. After five or six exasperations of this nature, I gave up and went back to Mozilla.

When Phoenix becomes less buggy I would like to use it again.

BTW, I used Opera for a long time when I was a victim of Windows, but since moving entirely to Linux, I find Opera's fonts so illegible it's painful to try to use it at all. I've read various accounts of how to fix this, but the techniques are way beyond my ability. So I am using Mozilla, which looks very good and clear.

I don't see why Opera can't look as good as Mozilla, "out of the box." I certainly wouldn't pay for anything that looks as crummy as it does without those adjustments I've read about and not been able to implement.

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Old 04-08-2003, 01:06 AM   #20
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When Phoenix becomes less buggy I would like to use it again.
which version did you use?

I highly recommend d/l a nightly build, b/c they made lots of improvements over the 'offical' release:
http://komodo.mozilla.org/pub/phoeni.../latest-trunk/

I have dialup, so I'm using one that is 2 weeks old...but its a real improvement over the officially stable ones (I have found maybe 2 buggy nightly binaries total - last one in Dec. - a really wacky problem they had going)
 
Old 04-08-2003, 01:48 AM   #21
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I used the latest stable version. I'll have to see if I can do something with a nightly build, soon. Thanks for the tip!
 
Old 04-08-2003, 07:47 AM   #22
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cuckopoint is right. I download the official version just to see the difference and I ran into a few problems myself. The nightly builds are much better.
 
Old 04-08-2003, 11:57 AM   #23
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Originally posted by windoze killa
Lynx for text?? What is that??
links, lynx, and w3m are text based internet browsers. That means when you don't have Xfree working, or you just like the consol. You can still use the internet for basic things, like checking mail, coming to linuxquestions
 
Old 04-08-2003, 12:03 PM   #24
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I installed the latest nightly build of Phoenix and it works just fine and hasn't hung up yet. It also seems faster than the "stable" version I tried a few days ago, but that could be my imagination or just that it's faster than Mozilla 1.2 which I was using moments before.

Anyway, very pleased so far and, once again, thanks to Cuckoopint for helping me out!

Re: Lynx--I first got on the Internet by using Lynx to access the local public library Internet connection from home; up till then the most I'd done with my modem was access some local BBS's. I was amazed at being able to, in effect, span the globe with a few clicks or commands. I called the library next day to make sure it was OK to be doing this! Yes, it was. And I was hooked.
 
Old 04-08-2003, 12:21 PM   #25
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links also is great becuase you can use your mouse, (in X) great isn't it?


PS: i don't usually use any of them. I just use them when i need to and also i don't have X running yet
 
Old 04-08-2003, 10:11 PM   #26
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Originally posted by MooktaKiNG
links, lynx, and w3m are text based internet browsers. That means when you don't have Xfree working, or you just like the consol. You can still use the internet for basic things, like checking mail, coming to linuxquestions
It was more a dig at text browsing. Haven't done that for about 8 years.
 
Old 04-09-2003, 11:41 AM   #27
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I also tried phoenix after reading this post and its awesome.

Downloaded the latest nightly build. Was fine but in the FAQ it said to get XFT fonts just to swap a file from mozilla When I did that phoenix wouldn't start up.

So I just compiled my own with XFT fonts and it looks great. Yeah, phoenix is sweet. Here is a screenshot of it, one more of bigger font size.

Last edited by wr3ck3d; 04-09-2003 at 01:00 PM.
 
Old 04-09-2003, 12:09 PM   #28
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Originally posted by wr3ck3d
Here is a screenshot of the fonts just incase anyone searches for this and wants to see.
I got asked for a password, so I didn't get to see your screenshot...
 
Old 04-09-2003, 01:04 PM   #29
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Ok, should work now. Quality sucks though.
 
Old 04-09-2003, 02:22 PM   #30
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Originally posted by wr3ck3d
Ok, should work now. Quality sucks though.
Still doesn't work at least for me...

I wanted to see the fonts because I have a terrible time with fonts in Linux and keep hoping to see something so wonderful it will inspire me to try to sort out all the details of how to improve them. (However, it seems so complicated I've just about given up hoping.)
 
  


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