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Old 08-05-2004, 12:10 AM   #1
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hard drive space all of sudden used up


ok, i use a program called amsn, it gave me error, i forgot what error something about the profile, and it wouldn;t work anymore and the next thing i know all my hard drive space is taken up, which is 80gb, and last time i checked it was only taking up liek 8 or 9 gig, and i checked the space ont he home directory to see how much was in that folder and it was only 3.3 gig, most for onther programs some it was even 100 meg, im using suse9.1 pro, and kde3, can someone please tell me what the hell happened?
 
Old 08-05-2004, 08:04 AM   #2
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If you still can boot or are still running, I'd disable the program, if it is still running.

I do not know what this program is or does - but if anything is not running correctly it can well be that your log-files grew so big with error-messages, that all the space was used up by them.

check your system logs
check for such large files in /var or/and /tmp directories and -after having looked through them, to make sure you can safely do without them - delete them...
check for new and really big files - or for a lot of newer ones...
 
Old 08-05-2004, 02:41 PM   #3
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im guessing i have serious problem? "/var/log/messages could not be opened. No log files to open"
 
Old 08-05-2004, 03:58 PM   #4
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I did not say to look for THAT specific file - its there on my machine - but empty...this is in no way a bad sign!
You can look into your /etc/syslog.conf - there it gets configured, what your system is supposed to log to which file and by what priorities/conditions...

Looking for filled up log-files was just a suggestion I made!

Are you getting error-messages? What do they say?

In the /var/log/directory there are more than likely a lot (or some at least) of other log-files
You would want ro read the end of /var/log/sys.log and /var/log/kern.log - and/or watch for unusually big files ...

If your disk is filled up you would look for this kind of files everywhere - not just in /var ...

I said IF - to verify - you could check some locations.
What is the output of these commands?:

"df -h"
"du -h /var/log"
"du -h /tmp"
"du -hs ~/"

"tail -n 25 /var/log/sys.log"
"tail -n 25 /var/log/kern.log"

watch out here - if the last two commands contain information you do not want to share - edit the output...
 
Old 08-05-2004, 06:09 PM   #5
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to make it easier on me i just clicked properties of each filder for example the holder folder and let it determine how much it take up, home is only like 3.3 gigs, and var is like 300 meg, etc is about the same, and so on, and im a newbie at linux so i dont know alot of shit, i know my way around what i have to.
 
Old 08-05-2004, 06:26 PM   #6
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Like jomen said, post up the output of 'df -h' first. It's possible you've got plenty of diskspace but a full partition. If df looks clean, it's some other issue. What told you your disk space is used up? You mentioned only a profile error.
 
Old 08-05-2004, 08:12 PM   #7
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kDiskFree, i didn;t noticed i only got 8 gigs free when that error occured and whent he error occured it showed i had no space and i coudl't hardly do anyhting, i hard to restart my computer, then i checked the disk space and noticed it said everything was taken except a few gigs. i went through and click on properties of all of the main folder from bin - var, and check how much space its taking up and it of what i got it doesn;t seem no more then 15 gig at the most, 30 or 35 gigs at the most with my second hard drive added in to all that.
 
Old 08-05-2004, 08:18 PM   #8
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and yes "df -h" shows also that 88% of the hard drive is used
 
Old 08-05-2004, 09:45 PM   #9
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I have a feeling it's something with Suse 9.1... I just installed it, and It said one of my extra partitions is full (it says its 128 terabytes taken up out of 127 terabytes... weird) and the partition is really about 60GB with about 55GB free. Suse (9.1 personal by the way, not pro) still gives me the error sometimes but i can still put stuff on my drive. It always shows it when I go into YAST. I'm pretty new to linux also, so i haven't found a solution. If I do i'll let u know.
 
Old 08-05-2004, 11:24 PM   #10
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yeah my dad told me it was a KDE thing, and not a suse, so i dont know, i gues i could try and put 9 gigs worth of something on my main hard drive and see if it tells me i have no space left, who knows.
 
Old 08-06-2004, 04:01 AM   #11
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If you want to be sure of what happened - instead of having to assume, that maybe it is "a suse-thing or KDE-thing" without ever really knowing what actually is happening here - you should:

-open a terminal... (called KONSOLE in KDE - an xterm will also do)
-type in the commands I suggested...
-post the output...

-WHAT error-message are you seeing?

This way you will also avoid going through the GUI-Programs of KDE - which - as you hold possible yourself - could be the problem themselves.

Noone can do anything to help you farther without a little information...
 
Old 08-06-2004, 02:05 PM   #12
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df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda3 73G 63G 9.8G 87% /
tmpfs 253M 12K 253M 1% /dev/shm
/dev/hda2 1.1G 38M 1.1G 4% /boot
/dev/hdb1 38G 32G 5.9G 85% /myfiles

du -h /var/log
0 /var/log/sa
280K /var/log/cups
0 /var/log/dump
0 /var/log/news
0 /var/log/vbox
8.9M /var/log/YaST2
0 /var/log/evlog
0 /var/log/samba
0 /var/log/squid
0 /var/log/smpppd
0 /var/log/apache2
14M /var/log

du -h /tmp
0 /tmp/.esd
4.0K /tmp/gconfd-chris00/lock
4.0K /tmp/gconfd-chris00
0 /tmp/gconfd-chris01
0 /tmp/YaST2-15130-lUVtL0
8.0K /tmp/YaST2-26920-YMxGMb
0 /tmp/.ICE-unix
1.4M /tmp/{8b4ab829-dfd3-436d-b808-d9733d76c590}
0 /tmp/3Ddiag.VF5393
336K /tmp/isp05bd.tmp
8.0K /tmp/YaST2-26970-qJ0Nvm
0 /tmp/.X11-unix
4.0K /tmp/2033927948/.qt
0 /tmp/2033927948/.kde/share/config
0 /tmp/2033927948/.kde/share
0 /tmp/2033927948/.kde
4.0K /tmp/2033927948
0 /tmp/3Ddiag.b12397
0 /tmp/3Ddiag.b15403
24K /tmp/YaST2-02157-57IKFG/internet-test
68K /tmp/YaST2-02157-57IKFG
8.0K /tmp/YaST2-26945-d2QECd
0 /tmp/.wine-chris00/server-498c3
0 /tmp/.wine-chris00/server-303-498c3
0 /tmp/.wine-chris00
0 /tmp/audacity1.2-chris00
0 /tmp/ksocket-root
0 /tmp/3Ddiag.m15325
0 /tmp/hsperfdata_chris00
0 /tmp/gconfd-root
0 /tmp/kde-chris00/arkEBCPk9
4.0K /tmp/kde-chris00/Desktop-0
101K /tmp/kde-chris00
4.0K /tmp/kde-chris01/Desktop-0
4.0K /tmp/kde-chris01
4.0K /tmp/kde-chris02/Desktop-0
4.0K /tmp/kde-chris02
0 /tmp/3Ddiag.q27403
0 /tmp/kde-root
5.6M /tmp/_ISTMP1.DIR/_ISTMP0.DIR
5.6M /tmp/_ISTMP1.DIR
645K /tmp/_ISTMP2.DIR
0 /tmp/3Ddiag.sO7523
0 /tmp/3Ddiag.v11925
8.0K /tmp/YaST2-15130-FI6Soc
8.0K /tmp/orbit-root
260K /tmp/scrollkeeper-chris00
0 /tmp/mcop-chris00/artsd-samples
29K /tmp/mcop-chris00
0 /tmp/mcop-chris01/artsd-samples
4.0K /tmp/mcop-chris01
0 /tmp/mcop-chris02/artsd-samples
4.0K /tmp/mcop-chris02
11K /tmp/orbit-chris00
0 /tmp/orbit-chris01
4.5K /tmp/ksocket-chris00
0 /tmp/ksocket-chris01
0 /tmp/ksocket-chris02
4.0K /tmp/1058876780/.qt
0 /tmp/1058876780/.kde/share/config
0 /tmp/1058876780/.kde/share
0 /tmp/1058876780/.kde
4.0K /tmp/1058876780
0 /tmp/3Ddiag.I12474
0 /tmp/sysconfig-update
4.0K /tmp/mcop-root
0 /tmp/3Ddiag.Jg6906
106M /tmp

du -hs ~/
602K /root/

tail -n 25 /var/log/sys.log
tail: cannot open `/var/log/sys.log' for reading: No such file or directory

tail -n 25 /var/log/kern.log
tail: cannot open `/var/log/kern.log' for reading: No such file or directory
 
Old 08-06-2004, 02:07 PM   #13
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there you go, and im not stupid i know what konsole is, and im guessing those last 2 about sys.log, and kern.log is bad cause it cant find it?
 
Old 08-06-2004, 03:41 PM   #14
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Take it easy! ...no, you are not! Peace!

...so, even if the log-files I was suggesting to read through do not exist - from the output of those commands you can be sure, that it is not the logfiles, which filled up your disk!
This is at least not a bad sign.

I don't know how suse handles the logging - on most linux systems it is standard to log messages from kernel and from programs to these files - suse seems to use different names.
You could find out the names used by reding through the config-file for the syslog-daemon which hopefully is running: if suse uses syslogd, the file would be /etc/syslog.conf

If you dont know, what used up your space, it is likely, that something went wrong - and this would appear in the log-files - that is, why you should find them.

using "dmesg" could help, but I doubt it - it shows only the last few events.

df -h shows that /dev/hda3 - your / partition is pretty used up - but this you already know

since the used space is not in the other directories you have checked eighter, you will need to search each directory with similar commands and look for unusual things and sizes (using du -hs ... - this will just give the sum of everything in the directory specified) - sorry, but I cannot say more now
 
Old 08-06-2004, 04:10 PM   #15
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shelflife - it's possible that you've got some kind of runaway process that is writing a huge amount of data to the disk, or that other activities created files which should have been deleted but weren't. I would also try this: click on the big "K" in the lower left hand corner, then from the menu, select the Find Files option. In Find Files, do a search from the / directory (including subdirectories) looking for files that are unusually large in size, such as at least 50Mg. Based on your description, it sounds like there is probably at least one or more giant file(s) that is eating up your space, such as if you were ripping a lot of music or copying DVD's. That may not lead to a solution, but it's something to check -- J.W.
 
  


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