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Old 02-23-2018, 08:31 PM   #1
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does Wine Notepad share Windows Notepad's limitations?


At some point, I noticed Wine has a "Notepad" application that obviously duplicates the Windows Notepad. Has anyone used it extensively enough to know whether the Wine programmers got rid of the bug or limitation in Windows Notepad? Which is: years ago, I discovered that Windows Notepad couldn't handle text files larger than a certain size. I forget what the size limit was and what exactly happened if I exceeded it (sorry, it was approximately 15 years ago), but I think it was either 150K or 250K.

I have a set of text files I would like to use this Wine Notepad with, but several of them are larger than 250K and certainly most are larger than 150K. I don't want to risk entering data then having the application crash. It does not appear the designers gave Wine Notepad an auto-save or any other obvious improvements. I always loved the simplicity of Windows Notepad, so if Wine has this version of it that works well, I am eager to avail myself of it.

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Old 02-23-2018, 09:11 PM   #2
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I don’t know the specific answer to your question, but those same years ago I began using Notepad+ , which didn’t have the size limitation and allowed opening multiple files simultaneously.

Later, I discovered SciTE, and have used it in Windows and Linux ever since.
 
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:14 PM   #3
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You can also get Kate for Windows.

I don't know whether it works with wine.
 
Old 02-23-2018, 09:22 PM   #4
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Kate is not simple, if simplicity is the issue. But if you want power and flexibility, Kate is a good choice. Notepad is a cripple.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 05:48 PM   #5
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Kate is not simple, if simplicity is the issue. But if you want power and flexibility, Kate is a good choice. Notepad is a cripple.
Fortunately, I don't need power and flexibility here. Text-only diary entries.
 
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You can also get Kate for Windows.

I don't know whether it works with wine.
Well, that's interesting, but why would I want to use "Kate for Windows" in Linux? Much simpler to install Kate for Linux. I just can't because I don't want KDE. I did use it back in my KDE days (before KDE 4 drove me away), and liked it. I know AwesomeMachine is right about it.

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Old 02-24-2018, 06:02 PM   #7
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If you want 'simple', had you considered Leafpad? It's a very close Linux 'clone' of the original Notepad. I use it all the time in 'Puppy' Linux, because it's very simple, straightforward and very lightweight.

I, too, used to like Notepad; it was one of the very few things I liked about Windoze, period.

Also, if you wanted a multitab text editor, Notepad++ is pretty good.....and runs well under WINE. Certainly under WINE 1.7.51; perhaps considered out of date by some, but through experimentation, it's the one version that runs my entire small stable of Windoze apps perfectly.....with no hassle.

I use the PortableApps version, from this page:-

https://portableapps.com/apps

.....under the 'Development' sub-section. Interestingly, directly under it is listed 'Notepad2'; might this be the 'fixed' version of the buggy one you mentioned? Could be worth investigating.

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To run these, you don't 'install' with WINE in the normal way. You have to run these outside of the WINE 'container' (or 'prefix', as they like to call it at WineHQ). Extract to your /home directory, open it up, and just click on the .exe file inside. It'll hunt around, find the WINE 'environment'', and it should run, all things being equal.


Mike.

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Old 02-24-2018, 06:02 PM   #8
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My advice would be to use a native Linux editor, specifically one that states that it handles large file sizes.

You're using Linux - it makes sense.
 
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My advice would be to use a native Linux editor, specifically one that states that it handles large file sizes.

You're using Linux - it makes sense.
I'd go along with that, TBH. And I'd still recommend Leafpad for simple & straightforward. It has NO size limitations that I'm aware of.....and I've used it with some very large text files over the past few years.


Mike.
 
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If you want 'simple', had you considered Leafpad? It's a very close Linux 'clone' of the original Notepad. I use it all the time in 'Puppy' Linux, because it's very simple, straightforward and very lightweight.

I, too, used to like Notepad; it was one of the very few things I liked about Windoze, period.

Also, if you wanted a multitab text editor, Notepad++ is pretty good.....and runs well under WINE. Certainly under WINE 1.7.51; perhaps considered out of date by some, but through experimentation, it's the one version that runs my entire small stable of Windoze apps perfectly.....with no hassle.

I use the PortableApps version, from this page:-

https://portableapps.com/apps

.....under the 'Development' sub-section. Interestingly, directly under it is listed 'Notepad2'; might this be the 'fixed' version of the buggy one you mentioned? Could be worth investigating.

------------------------------------------

To run these, you don't 'install' with WINE in the normal way. You have to run these outside of the WINE 'container' (or 'prefix', as they like to call it at WineHQ). Extract to your /home directory, open it up, and just click on the .exe file inside. It'll hunt around, find the WINE 'environment'', and it should run, all things being equal.


Mike.
I'll look into Notepad++. And I already use Leafpad. My simplest text editor, but not for datestamped text.
 
Old 02-25-2018, 06:43 PM   #11
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Sorry. I'm going to repeat this:
SciTE GUI text editor that runs in both Windows and Linux/Unix. No size limitations, multi-tab, multi-language (code language) syntax highlighting. Don't know if it will run in Wine.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 09:55 AM   #12
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KWrite, Mousepad, Leafpad and GEdit are all Linux Notepad counteparts.
 
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If you want "simple", tried ed?
 
Old 02-28-2018, 09:42 AM   #14
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My advice would be to use a native Linux editor, specifically one that states that it handles large file sizes.

You're using Linux - it makes sense.
As far as I know, we are speaking of a native Linux editor: this Wine Notepad appears to be a Wine clone of Windows Notepad, not Windows Notepad itself. It is a Linux program. Doesn't the attached screenshot indicate that?
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:37 AM   #15
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As far as I know, we are speaking of a native Linux editor: this Wine Notepad appears to be a Wine clone of Windows Notepad, not Windows Notepad itself. It is a Linux program. Doesn't the attached screenshot indicate that?
If it runs under Wine then it isn't a native Linux executable, it is a Windows executable. Ensuring that you're not running anything else under Wine, launch the notepad application and use the system monitor to check which executables are running - you will notice that winedevice.exe and wineserver are running. Exit Notepad and those executables will stop running.

The Notepad application shipped with Wine is their equivalent of the Microsoft application.

My general rule of thumb is to run Linux executables wherever possible for maximum system integration and minimum hassle. If an application is only available in Windows and one of similar functionality is not available as a Linux executable, then, if it is a simple portable application then I try running it under Wine. If that doesn't work, and for all other Windows programs with unique and necessary functionality, I run it under a Windows Virtual Machine.

Other people have different strategies, often running more complicated programs under Wine, but to be honest I've had so much hassle with Wine that I only have a few simple applications that run under Wine.
 
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