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Old 03-23-2007, 11:59 PM   #1
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Cant Get GUI...installation done in Text mode


Hii all

This is swathi..A new user...
I have installed Fedora6 ..But the installation was done in Text Mode..It dint give me any option..It said couldnt start GUI and switching back to text mode...
Then After reading the forums I tried
startx
output: "couldnt start Xserver in card 0
Couldn start X server in old config trying out New
then Again couldnt strat thats it"""

My /etc/X11/xorg.conf file says

section "server layout"
Identifier "Default layout"
screen 0 "Screen 0" 0 0
Input Device "Keyboard 0" "core keyboard"
ens section

section "Input device"
Identifier "Keyboard 0"
driver "kbd"
end section

section "Device"
Identifier "Video card 0"
driver "i810"
end

How can i help this...
Regards
Swathi
 
Old 03-24-2007, 12:24 AM   #2
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I think maybe you installed it as a server so it didn;t install x
 
Old 03-24-2007, 01:19 AM   #3
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What type (make & model) of graphics card do you have?

If there is no graphics card and you have on-board graphics, what is the main chipset on the mother board.

If you can't figure out this info, what make & model of computer do you have?
More specific, what mother board does this computer have?

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Old 03-24-2007, 02:50 AM   #4
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What type (make & model) of graphics card do you have?

If there is no graphics card and you have on-board graphics, what is the main chipset on the mother board.

If you can't figure out this info, what make & model of computer do you have?
More specific, what mother board does this computer have?
Hiii

Thanks for the response

its P-IV
Fedora core 6(i386)
Its Intel(R) 82845G graphics controller
video BIOS version 2907
scrreen 800*600(75 refresh rate)


what els shud i say
any idea how can it be done
swathi
 
Old 03-24-2007, 03:11 AM   #5
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Well, that's an exceptional chip set, but I have run into similar graphics complaints with that chip (controller) here at LQ. I think you should use the search utility on the right hand side of these pages under "Main menu" to find similar threads. Or google using "i845 graphics and Fedora Core 6". Apparently, there is the option during installation to use i810 graphics which will probably get you minimum graphics off the get go. This i810 option apparently works for many Intel chip set controllers (at least, under 915). But I for one, don't know how to enable them, but a half assed guess says you need to add it as a boot parameter early in the install process before loading the kernel, like a boot option instead of just hitting "Enter" after Anaconda shows up shortly after booting the computer with the disc in drive. Try hitting one of the "F" buttons at the start of installation to see what options you can add to the Anaconda boot process.

My first and (second) most treasured computer of around 10 or so computers has the i810 chip set, it was an "a..hole" with allot of Linux distributions, that computer made a geek out of me. But I'm very much attached to it and give away many bigger computers, (got lots), I won't part with that work horse.
 
Old 03-24-2007, 03:17 AM   #6
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Well, that's an exceptional chip set, but I have run into similar graphics complaints with that chip (controller) here at LQ. I think you should use the search utility on the right hand side of these pages under "Main menu" to find similar threads. Or google using "i845 graphics and Fedora Core 6". Apparently, there is the option during installation to use i810 graphics which will probably get you minimum graphics off the get go. This i810 option apparently works for many Intel chip set controllers (at least, under 915). But I for one, don't know how to enable them, but a half assed guess says you need to add it as a boot parameter early in the install process before loading the kernel, like a boot option instead of just hitting "Enter" after Anaconda shows up shortly after booting the computer with the disc in drive. Try hitting one of the "F" buttons at the start of installation to see what options you can add to the Anaconda boot process.

My first and (second) most treasured computer of around 10 or so computers has the i810 chip set, it was an "a..hole" with allot of Linux distributions, that computer made a geek out of me. But I'm very much attached to it and give away many bigger computers, (got lots), I won't part with that work horse.


Hi thank youu
My /etc/X11/xorg.conf
says
first two sections about "server layout" and "input device" and then

section "Device"
Identifier "Video card 0"
Driver "i810"
end section

This is what you were refering too...
thats in built there
what else can be done


Swathi
 
Old 03-24-2007, 03:31 AM   #7
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A little history

Shortly after Intel put the Pentium 4 processors on the market, Asus put out a mother board called "P4PE" if i remember correctly, in it's day, the Intel 845PE chip set was the king of the hill, fastest chip set, especially on that Asus mobo. The 845G is based on the original 845PE except it has more modern capabilities to meet more modern demands, as such, there are compromises involved, it is not quite the show stopper the 845PE was, but it is more capable of handling today's technology, better than 855 and 865 in my opinion, even if those other two are more up to date.
 
Old 03-24-2007, 03:33 AM   #8
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No more suggestions other than the search utilities.
 
Old 03-24-2007, 03:42 AM   #9
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But there is allot of sections missing in your xorg.conf, especially the part regarding resolutions, I'm thinking maybe you can add the missing sections to xorg.conf and that might do the trick. I have Nvidia geforce 6800....I won't post it because it might melt your board, but look at other thread regarding xorg.conf and maybe adding these missing sections may be the answer.
 
Old 03-24-2007, 04:12 AM   #10
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HEY

Just re-booted after installing the latest FC6 updates, the kernel is in the running now, and is suprisingly not bad. Here are some links, apparently there is a "patch" for the i845g chip set.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=120106

This next one is a real catch, not sure if it will help, but it did come up in the search:

http://angelscat.livejournal.com/
 
Old 03-24-2007, 04:39 AM   #11
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Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior Hacker
HEY

Just re-booted after installing the latest FC6 updates, the kernel is in the running now, and is suprisingly not bad. Here are some links, apparently there is a "patch" for the i845g chip set.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=120106

This next one is a real catch, not sure if it will help, but it did come up in the search:

http://angelscat.livejournal.com/

Your xorg.conf has no Mouse input device and many of the configuration information needed for the X server to start. Pls back up the original xorg.conf file and replace with the attached one; and try to restart or reboot the system.

so please try with My xorg.file which uses VESA:

############Begining of file
# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "single head configuration"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "mouse"
Driver "mou"
Option "3"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
Identifier "Monitor0"
ModelName "Monitor 640x480"
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
HorizSync 31.4 - 31.6
VertRefresh 50.0 - 61.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Device0"
Driver "vesa"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Device0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

##############End of file
 
Old 03-24-2007, 06:07 AM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thirulinux
Your xorg.conf has no Mouse input device and many of the configuration information needed for the X server to start. Pls back up the original xorg.conf file and replace with the attached one; and try to restart or reboot the system.

so please try with My xorg.file which uses VESA:

############Begining of file
# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "single head configuration"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "mouse"
Driver "mou"
Option "3"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
Identifier "Monitor0"
ModelName "Monitor 640x480"
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
HorizSync 31.4 - 31.6
VertRefresh 50.0 - 61.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Device0"
Driver "vesa"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Device0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

##############End of file


Hiii Thank You so much for the help
I have added all the missing sections in xorg file
like "Mouse" and screen with Modes ...

Then i ran "startx"
command
The Error says
EE(0)I810: No video BIOS modes for chosen depth"
EE screen(S) found ,but none have a usable configuration..

What do u think can be done

Regards
Swathi
 
Old 03-25-2007, 01:05 AM   #13
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Just a suggestion:

Based on the error message. Try changing the depth in that xorg.conf to 16 from 24. And the HorizSync does not appear average, for a regular CRT monitor it should be something like 30 - 60, the verticle could possibly jacked up to 70 for the second one. Of course, if you have a manual handy for you monitor, you may be able to get the proper refresh rates from it or at the manufacturer's web site.

What kind and size of monitor do you have?

Last edited by Junior Hacker; 03-25-2007 at 01:06 AM.
 
Old 03-25-2007, 01:33 AM   #14
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Also:
You can try this command logged in as root:

system-config-display --reconfigure

Probably best to use default values during questioning, if it does not do the trick, try it again and add this option:

--forceui
 
Old 03-26-2007, 10:04 AM   #15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior Hacker
Also:
You can try this command logged in as root:

system-config-display --reconfigure

Probably best to use default values during questioning, if it does not do the trick, try it again and add this option:

--forceui


Heyy
Hiii
I owe a lot to you man....
i changed the depth to 16
and added the mouse part of it into the config file....
and then ran startx
its working welll
thank you so much....

bye
swathi
 
  


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