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Old 03-29-2021, 01:12 PM   #1
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struggling to find the right location to the kde setting to fix this .


KDE plasma is quite a good De, but it is a Mess. !

I have being struggling to fix some of the lousy color setting, but can't find the location to it.. horrible.
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Previously i have problem with hover over text color.. after another update or change or theme or something **can't remember.. that i think solved somehow.. but now i noticed when i drag a selected text.. it is black bg with almost black text..

Try to fix it, but damn horrible gui design and decription. can't figure out which one is the setting to that.
 
Old 03-29-2021, 05:00 PM   #2
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KDE plasma is quite a good De, but it is a Mess. !

I have being struggling to fix some of the lousy color setting, but can't find the location to it.. horrible.
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Previously i have problem with hover over text color.. after another update or change or theme or something **can't remember.. that i think solved somehow.. but now i noticed when i drag a selected text.. it is black bg with almost black text..

Try to fix it, but damn horrible gui design and decription. can't figure out which one is the setting to that.
You can edit your color scheme.

System Settings -> Colors -> hover over the current color scheme and you'll see two small icons appear in the lower right corner of the color scheme sample. One icon is "Edit Color Scheme". This method of modifying the colors has changed. I seem to recall that it used to be a much more noticable "Edit" button on the bottom of the window. I suspect you're looking to change the colors for the Tooltip background and text to something more to your liking. At least to start.

HTH...
 
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Old 03-29-2021, 08:15 PM   #3
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You can also download and try out different themes. There is a rich collection of Plasma themes out there.
 
Old 03-29-2021, 11:27 PM   #4
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Without knowing the versions of your distro and Plasma it's tough to be more precise. Plasma is somewhat of an evolving target, a developer's playground with lots of toys to play with. Settings get renamed, moved, modified and so on from time to time, and sometimes lost altogether until someone reports a readily reproducible problem that a developer takes the time to fix. I used to find colors changes easier than they have been lately.

I agree that the default Breeze theme colors, among other qualities, leave a lot to be desired. I generally use Plastik where possible rather than messing with addon themes.
 
Old 03-30-2021, 11:22 AM   #5
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Without knowing the versions of your distro and Plasma it's tough to be more precise. Plasma is somewhat of an evolving target, a developer's playground with lots of toys to play with. Settings get renamed, moved, modified and so on from time to time, and sometimes lost altogether until someone reports a readily reproducible problem that a developer takes the time to fix. I used to find colors changes easier than they have been lately.

I agree that the default Breeze theme colors, among other qualities, leave a lot to be desired. I generally use Plastik where possible rather than messing with addon themes.
I use the Plastik look as well. It makes the top right button (minimize, maximize, close) more clear that they are buttons.
Then, I change the active titlebar and inactive bar colors.
Then for the Application Style, I select Oxygen.
IMO, it looks really good like this.

I offered to redo the System Settings over at the kde forums but nobody responded.

~~~~vmelkon
 
Old 03-30-2021, 12:16 PM   #6
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You can edit your color scheme.

System Settings -> Colors -> hover over the current color scheme and you'll see two small icons appear in the lower right corner of the color scheme sample. One icon is "Edit Color Scheme". This method of modifying the colors has changed. I seem to recall that it used to be a much more noticable "Edit" button on the bottom of the window. I suspect you're looking to change the colors for the Tooltip background and text to something more to your liking. At least to start.

HTH...
TQ for replying.
Yes, i know this place to change color. I have being trying to "locate" the appropriate "setting" to that problem. But i can't find it. I have browsed thru all settings in this location, but can't figure out which one to change, that's why i ask for help in this forum. There is no description of what setting is to what. and when i test try to change any 1 color setting, i have to logout and login or restart to see the changes.. How on earth i suppose to do that? so many settings in here, none is "to me" related to what i am looking for; if i test out 1 by 1, i have to logout and login a few dozen of time. I think some color setting will be noticable after hit "apply" and close the window.. some won't.. need to restart.. (worse than windows os in this aspect...)
 
Old 03-30-2021, 12:21 PM   #7
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You can also download and try out different themes. There is a rich collection of Plasma themes out there.
I have I have downloaded win10OS dark scheme.. which is what i m using currently.
Previously i was using breeze.. which i got issue with title bar color (between active and non active windows).
This win10oSdark theme... has got this issue.. I won't want to download all theme and try them out one by one.. i mean, it is crazy.. People always boast linux better than windows os.. one of them is "windows os need to be restarted when change something to take effect; linux takes changes immediately...." .. <-- this sound very sacarstic to me.. because i need to logout-login to have a simple thing such as color change to take effect.
 
Old 03-30-2021, 12:29 PM   #8
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Without knowing the versions of your distro and Plasma it's tough to be more precise. Plasma is somewhat of an evolving target, a developer's playground with lots of toys to play with. Settings get renamed, moved, modified and so on from time to time, and sometimes lost altogether until someone reports a readily reproducible problem that a developer takes the time to fix. I used to find colors changes easier than they have been lately.

I agree that the default Breeze theme colors, among other qualities, leave a lot to be desired. I generally use Plastik where possible rather than messing with addon themes.
Plastik ?

Are we talking about color scheme or window decoration ? i have got plastik decoration, but no plastik scheme..
Should i download plastik scheme separate from plastik decoration ? sorry asking stupid question; plasma made me stupid.. although i like to use it.. just some aspect of it is stupifying..
Can you share link to your plastik color scheme ( i suppose you meant plastik color scheme) ?
From "get new color schemes" i can only see 2 plastik..
one is xplastic color theme (bright)
and plastik by usrkl. A KDE 4 port of KDE 3 Plastik color scheme (bright as well)
I like darker scheme which is better for eyes.

Code:
Operating System: EndeavourOS
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.80.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.11.7-arch1-1
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5-4210H CPU @ 2.90GHz
Memory: 15,6 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa DRI Intel® HD Graphics 4600

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Old 03-30-2021, 01:01 PM   #9
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I use the Plastik look as well. It makes the top right button (minimize, maximize, close) more clear that they are buttons.
Then, I change the active titlebar and inactive bar colors.
Then for the Application Style, I select Oxygen.
IMO, it looks really good like this.

I offered to redo the System Settings over at the kde forums but nobody responded.

~~~~vmelkon
Code:
I use the Plastik look as well.
Are you refering to plastik color scheme or plastik decoration ?

Code:
Then for the Application Style, I select Oxygen.
I use breeze.. I don't know what will be changed if i switch to oxygen application style.. so, rather not messing with it unless it hinder me from using computer

BTW, there is "global theme", there is plasma style, color scheme, window decoration, application style....
What is diff between global theme and color scheme ? so confusing!
 
Old 03-30-2021, 01:21 PM   #10
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Plastik ?
I wrote "where possible". I don't make a distinction between the nuances that affect look and feel. Like vmelkon, I too use Oxygen where possible. Wherever there is any alternative to Breeze, I choose an alternative, unless the alternative turns out to be worse.
 
Old 04-01-2021, 02:58 PM   #11
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Code:
I use the Plastik look as well.
Are you refering to plastik color scheme or plastik decoration ?

Code:
Then for the Application Style, I select Oxygen.
I use breeze.. I don't know what will be changed if i switch to oxygen application style.. so, rather not messing with it unless it hinder me from using computer
It's the Plastik decoration.
Start -> Applications -> Settings -> System Settings
On the left side, click on Application Style
Then, on the left side, click on Window Decorations
Under the Theme tab, select Plastik.
Click Apply at the bottom right.
This will give windows a Win 95 look.

This one effects the look of scroll bars: Oxygen
Start -> Applications -> Settings -> System Settings
On the left side, click on Application Style
Then, on the left side, click on Application Style again
and in the Widget style drop-down list, I select Oxygen

Fusion : This reminds me of Win 10.
So don't select Fusion. Select Oxygen.

At the bottom right, click on Apply.

This also controls progress bar look, button look, radio button, checkbox, edit boxes, combo boxes.

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BTW, there is "global theme", there is plasma style, color scheme, window decoration, application style....
What is diff between global theme and color scheme ? so confusing!
I think it sets up the entire colors and sizes for everything. I guess it is a one stop shop to click.
Also, I think that is the place that controls the color of the taskbar. Again, this is a design I don't like. I offered them to change it but nobody responded.
Why can't I set the color of the taskbar to whatever I want?

It's only recently that they added the ability to configure the date from the GUI.

~~~~vmelkon
 
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Old 04-02-2021, 02:08 PM   #12
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It's the Plastik decoration.
Start -> Applications -> Settings -> System Settings
On the left side, click on Application Style
Then, on the left side, click on Window Decorations
Under the Theme tab, select Plastik.
Click Apply at the bottom right.
This will give windows a Win 95 look.

This one effects the look of scroll bars: Oxygen
Start -> Applications -> Settings -> System Settings
On the left side, click on Application Style
Then, on the left side, click on Application Style again
and in the Widget style drop-down list, I select Oxygen

Fusion : This reminds me of Win 10.
So don't select Fusion. Select Oxygen.

At the bottom right, click on Apply.

This also controls progress bar look, button look, radio button, checkbox, edit boxes, combo boxes.



I think it sets up the entire colors and sizes for everything. I guess it is a one stop shop to click.
Also, I think that is the place that controls the color of the taskbar. Again, this is a design I don't like. I offered them to change it but nobody responded.
Why can't I set the color of the taskbar to whatever I want?

It's only recently that they added the ability to configure the date from the GUI.

~~~~vmelkon
Thx. Although i can't see much different of plastik of window decorations + oxygen of application style.. apart from the buttons on the window title bar.. but i just use your recommendation.. Thx.
 
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It's the Plastik decoration.
Start -> Applications -> Settings -> System Settings
On the left side, click on Application Style

~~~~vmelkon
Even after i have changed window decoration -> plastik and application style -> plastik, when i drag selected text, it is still black in color, both background and words as shown in the pic.

I guess so far no body know what "setting" is this issue under..
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I have being trying to change this thru color scheme, but no matter what i tried, i just can't seems to hit the jackpot. and i dare to try everything in one shot... ..who know what else gonna mess up later.. .

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Old 04-03-2021, 01:10 AM   #14
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Sometimes the best solution for inexplicable Plasma trouble is best solved by:
  1. log out of Plasma
  2. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or 3 or ...
  3. Login root
  4. rm -r /home/username/.cache/*
  5. log out
  6. Alt-F7 (or whatever tty X runs on in EndeavourOS)
  7. login to Plasma
 
Old 04-03-2021, 02:51 AM   #15
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Sometimes the best solution for inexplicable Plasma trouble is best solved by:
  1. log out of Plasma
  2. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or 3 or ...
  3. Login root
  4. rm -r /home/username/.cache/*
  5. log out
  6. Alt-F7 (or whatever tty X runs on in EndeavourOS)
  7. login to Plasma
You must be kidding me .. For a minor color issue you gonna advocate wiping out ? microsoft method of solving problem is also wipe out and reinstall.

I don't think this is the problem. wiping .cache.. won't stop the problem from occuring in the future.

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