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Old 06-16-2013, 06:00 PM   #1
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Slackware 14 on VirtualBox, minimal XCFE/LXDE install


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I am trying to install Slackware 14 on VirtualBox from within Lubuntu, because of the decreased performance running on VirtualBox I don't want to go the usual newbie route of installing everything.

So I need help deciding which packages I need and don't need. Does anyone have a link to a resource which explains which how to get a basic install running XFCE (LXDE preferred but I gather it's not recommended)

Thanks
 
Old 06-16-2013, 06:18 PM   #2
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You won't get decreased performance with installing everything. Slackware is not like Ubuntu (which enables all installed services by default), it will ask you at install time what to enable. So the easiest way without any performance hit is the default installation (which is by the way not necessarily the newbie route, I always make the default install, except on my EeePC 701, which has not enough storage space for that).
 
Old 06-17-2013, 04:56 AM   #3
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You won't get decreased performance with installing everything. Slackware is not like Ubuntu (which enables all installed services by default), it will ask you at install time what to enable. So the easiest way without any performance hit is the default installation (which is by the way not necessarily the newbie route, I always make the default install, except on my EeePC 701, which has not enough storage space for that).
Thanks for the reply.

Well I should have said I actually did an install using the default option, I managed to build a set of garage shelves (about 5 hours work) before it finished installing. Then when it came to restarting VirtualBox freaked out and said it was going to take three hours to save my changes so I just discarded it as something was obviously going horribly wrong.

Every time I would check on the installation progress it would be installing something random, multiple pdf viewers, support for languages I have never heard of, hundreds of development tools I am not likely to every use etc. etc.

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Old 06-17-2013, 05:11 AM   #4
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Thinking about it, maybe this is an issue with VirtualBox rather than Slackware. I grabbed the version from the repositories, I should probably get the version on the VirtualBox website.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 08:32 AM   #5
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Try Salix, it's a trimmed down offshoot of Slackware using one application per task.

http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php/Home
 
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It sounds more like a problem with hard drive access speed to me -- so it would take an age to install anything and to save the machine state to disk. Is your hard drive performing OK in everyday use? What are the specifications of the host machine?
 
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It sounds more like a problem with hard drive access speed to me -- so it would take an age to install anything and to save the machine state to disk. Is your hard drive performing OK in everyday use? What are the specifications of the host machine?
Asus X55C, Intel Core i3-2350M 2.3GHz, 4GB DDR3 RAM, 500 gig Hitachi something or other hdd.

Only had it a few months but not had any performance issues before, pretty quick running Lubuntu for everyday stuff.

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Try Salix, it's a trimmed down offshoot of Slackware using one application per task.

http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php/Home
Cool, I will give this a go, thanks.
 
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Asus X55C, Intel Core i3-2350M 2.3GHz, 4GB DDR3 RAM, 500 gig Hitachi something or other hdd.

Only had it a few months but not had any performance issues before, pretty quick running Lubuntu for everyday stuff.
Well, you ought not to have problems with that setup, your problem just reminded me of running VMs from a slow drive.
 
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Well, you ought not to have problems with that setup, your problem just reminded me of running VMs from a slow drive.
Hmmmmmm, I am hesitant to try again. My plan was to get my head around Slackware on the VirtualBox then ditch Lubuntu once I felt confident enough. Do you think Salix will properly prepare me for the world of Slackware? I see it has automated dependency resolution which is a bit of a departure from Slackware proper.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 10:47 AM   #11
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Salix will give you some insight into running Slackware. But the World Of Slackware isn't as dark, difficult, and dangerous as some people claim.
 
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Or maybe I will install Arch
 
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Salix will give you some insight into running Slackware. But the World Of Slackware isn't as dark, difficult, and dangerous as some people claim.
Well it was for me when I tried it two years ago, I remember spending ages getting my network connection working, USB drive wouldn't mount, couldn't create desktop shortcuts....the simplest of tasks and I was off reading how-to's and pestering people on forums for hours on end. It wasn't fun.
 
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I can imagine getting wireless and certain graphics hardware might be difficult under Slackware (I've not used wireless and I use the nVIDIA driver form their site when I run Slackware) but other than that it's the same as any other distro to get things going. If you choose KDE or XFCE you shouldn't notice much, if any, difference between it any any other distro.
If you do a full install then a lot of packages are very simple to install too. I've not done my own dependency resolution though so I can't say whether that's difficult or not.
I tend to use Debian because I'm always installing different WMs, DEs and other software so it's easier to just install resolved packages from the repositories. But if I wanted a stable, clean, straightforward install and/or wasn't so lazy I'd be using Slackware.
 
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Well it was for me when I tried it two years ago, I remember spending ages getting my network connection working, USB drive wouldn't mount, couldn't create desktop shortcuts....the simplest of tasks and I was off reading how-to's and pestering people on forums for hours on end. It wasn't fun.
Admittedly I am technologically challenged, but I am keen to learn.
 
  


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