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Old 01-26-2005, 02:27 PM   #1
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Package managers in different versions of linux


Hello .. Is there a common package manager that is used by all Linux flavours like there is vi used by all... ?

I installed debian and I am just learning apt,dselect and I am wondering if I will have to learn the package manager again for other flavours that I might come across when I working in a real environment..
 
Old 01-26-2005, 02:31 PM   #2
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There are various package managers around.

Debian and it's offspring use "apt", Fedora, Mandrake, Suse, and their offspring use RPM, etc.

The one thing they do have in common is they can all compile the same source to produce the program.
 
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No, there isn't.

There's at least three different package management systems,
some of which can be made to interact with others ...

redhat based distros (e.g. Fedora, Mandrake, SuSE, ...) use
rpm but can be tought to understand apt ...
debian based distro's use the things you already mentioned.
Gentoo for instance uses emerge ...
Slackware uses plain binary tarballs for the base packages.


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Old 01-26-2005, 02:49 PM   #4
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Thank you

Thank you .. I installed debian, like I said but I cant see the GUI at all... Its all shell...

What do I do to see GUI ?
 
Old 01-26-2005, 02:59 PM   #5
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Code:
apt-get install x-window-system
then
Code:
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
then
Code:
startx
then read this; http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=224547
 
Old 01-26-2005, 03:07 PM   #6
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code:apt-get install x-window-system >> This says x-window is already the neweset version

code:dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 >> Says unknown option -e

code:startx >> When I typed this it says X connection to :0.0 broken(explicit kill or server shutdown)


I dont have any connection to any server... Its a standalone...
 
Old 01-26-2005, 03:33 PM   #7
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Hey I booted and typed the first command and it gave the same message but the second message shows me this message..

The /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file which contains config info for xfree86 version 4X server can be handled automatically by deconf, OR manually by you

Manage Xfree86 4.x server config with debconf?

Says yes or no... what shld I say ? yes?
 
Old 01-26-2005, 03:43 PM   #8
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It's worth a shot. What's the worst that could happen? You won't have access to the gui. Gee, that's where you are now....
 
Old 01-26-2005, 03:44 PM   #9
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Say yes and lets see what happens.Post back if you need help,I will be around for awhile.
 
Old 01-26-2005, 03:53 PM   #10
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No that didnt work... It took me to another bunch of questions and I replied them the best I could about what my video card and monitor....

When I say startx it says X Connection to :0.0 broken(explicit kill or server shutdown)...

I did DISPLAY = localhost:0.0 and export display -- This gives a list of options and then finially says giving up
xinit:Connection refused (errno 111) unable to connect to X server
xinit:No such process (errno 3) Server error
xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "debianlocalhost:0.0" in "remove" command
 
Old 01-26-2005, 03:57 PM   #11
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I followed all the instructions on http://www.aboutdebian.com/install3.htm and it says that
know your video card chipset before you start the install.

This is my professor's machine and it doesnt have anything on it... No HP, DELL nothing except a HP CD Writer... IT DEFINATELY doesnt look like a HP machine... What can I do? Is there a default value which works? This may be the source of the error and I know how to to it (follow the 2nd command you pasted)

Is there anything I can do ?
 
Old 01-26-2005, 04:10 PM   #12
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If you don't know the box,boot up knoppix or another live cd and see what is the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4,and print it out or write down the monitor and graphics part.
Or when it asks for the graphic's part try vesa.You should have the monitor information at least.google for it.

Last edited by comprookie2000; 01-26-2005 at 04:14 PM.
 
Old 01-26-2005, 06:53 PM   #13
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How do I check using Knoppix

I download knoppix and I am in knoppix now...

However when I go to console and type /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 it says
bash:/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 : Permission denied...

How do I see what my video card is from Knoppix?
 
Old 01-26-2005, 07:04 PM   #14
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look for it in knoppix,it will be inside the knoppix dir,not on your hard drive.I'm not sure of the syntax but just look around with konquerer the file manager in kde,may be under ram,not sure,you will find it,then go to /etc then to /X11 then you will see it.
 
Old 01-26-2005, 08:38 PM   #15
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Details got from knoppix

(There was a XF86Config file without the -4)

I first checked the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and it has the following
***********************************************************************************
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
# FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
# FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "Keyboard"
Protocol "Standard"
AutoRepeat 500 5
LeftAlt Meta
RightAlt Meta
ScrollLock Compose
RightCtl Control
# This is just the default keymap for X.
# May be changed with the KDE international keyboard tool.
XkbModel "pc105"
XkbLayout "us"

# XkbOptions "ctrl:swapcaps"
# XkbKeycodes "xfree86"
# XkbTypes "default"
# XkbCompat "default"
# XkbSymbols "us(pc101)"
# XkbGeometry "pc"
# XkbRules "xfree86"
# XkbModel "pc101"
# XkbLayout "us"
EndSection

Section "Pointer"
Protocol "PS/2"
Device "/dev/mouse"
Emulate3Buttons
Emulate3Timeout 70
EndSection

# Auto-generated by mkxf86config

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "DEL"
ModelName "DEL7001"
HorizSync 30 - 96 # DDC-probed
VertRefresh 50 - 160 # DDC-probed
# These are the DDC-probed settings reported by your monitor.
# 1600x1200, 75.0Hz; hfreq=93.75, vfreq=75.00
ModeLine "1600x1200" 202.50 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x1024, 85.0Hz; hfreq=91.15, vfreq=85.02
ModeLine "1280x1024" 157.50 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync
# 1024x768, 85.0Hz; hfreq=68.68, vfreq=85.00
ModeLine "1024x768" 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
# 1024x768, 75.0Hz; hfreq=60.02, vfreq=75.03
ModeLine "1024x768" 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600, 85.0Hz; hfreq=53.67, vfreq=85.06
ModeLine "800x600" 56.25 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600, 75.0Hz; hfreq=46.88, vfreq=75.00
ModeLine "800x600" 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600, 72.0Hz; hfreq=48.08, vfreq=72.19
ModeLine "800x600" 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600, 60.0Hz; hfreq=37.88, vfreq=60.32
ModeLine "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
# 640x480, 85.0Hz; hfreq=43.27, vfreq=85.01
ModeLine "640x480" 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480, 75.0Hz; hfreq=37.50, vfreq=75.00
ModeLine "640x480" 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480, 60.0Hz; hfreq=31.47, vfreq=59.94
ModeLine "640x480" 25.17 640 648 744 784 480 482 484 509 -hsync -vsync
# Extended modelines with GTF timings
# 640x480 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 50.90 kHz; pclk: 43.16 MHz
ModeLine "640x480" 43.16 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 509 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 35.82 kHz; pclk: 34.96 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 34.96 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 43.27 kHz; pclk: 42.93 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 42.93 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 601 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 45.15 kHz; pclk: 45.51 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 45.51 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 602 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 51.42 kHz; pclk: 51.84 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 51.84 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 605 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 61.10 kHz; pclk: 62.57 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 62.57 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 611 -HSync +Vsync
# 800x600 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 63.60 kHz; pclk: 68.18 MHz
ModeLine "800x600" 68.18 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 636 -HSync +Vsync
# 1024x768 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 81.40 kHz; pclk: 113.31 MHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 113.31 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 814 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 53.70 kHz; pclk: 81.62 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 81.62 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 77.10 kHz; pclk: 119.65 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 119.65 1152 1224 1352 1552 864 865 868 907 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 91.50 kHz; pclk: 143.47 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 143.47 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 915 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 72.07 kHz; pclk: 124.54 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 124.54 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1001 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 75.15 kHz; pclk: 129.86 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 129.86 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 101.70 kHz; pclk: 178.99 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 178.99 1280 1376 1520 1760 960 961 964 1017 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 108.50 kHz; pclk: 190.96 MHz
ModeLine "1280x1024" 190.96 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1085 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 122.61 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 78.77 kHz; pclk: 149.34 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 149.34 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1094 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 82.20 kHz; pclk: 155.85 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 155.85 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.76 kHz; pclk: 179.26 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 179.26 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1103 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 111.20 kHz; pclk: 214.39 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 214.39 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1112 -HSync +Vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 127.10 kHz; pclk: 280.64 MHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 280.64 1600 1728 1904 2208 1200 1201 1204 1271 -HSync +Vsync
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "My Video Card"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
# TextClockFreq 22.175
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "fbdev"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
EndSection


# Standard Server
Section "Screen"
Driver "svga"
Device "My Video Card"
Monitor "Monitor0"
Subsection "Display"
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

# Accel. Server(s)
Section "Screen"
Driver "accel"
Device "My Video Card"
Monitor "Monitor0"
Subsection "Display"
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

# Fallback
Section "Screen"
Driver "vga16"
Device "My Video Card"
Monitor "Monitor0"
Subsection "Display"
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Driver "fbdev"
Device "fbdev"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "default"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "default"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "default"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "default"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "default"
EndSubSection
EndSection


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