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Old 05-03-2013, 06:42 AM   #46
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That's cutting edge? GIMP installed in 20 seconds on my old laptop with Debian.
I think "cutting" and "bleeding" edge refers to the packages and how up-to-date they are and not how quick a system is, right?

Otherwise, Windows 7 would be like fountain-of-blood-like-bleeding. At least on my PC.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 09:50 AM   #47
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Still not sure what the point of "cutting edge" is, then, if it's not faster, much less stable, and prone to not even boot. Doesn't sound very useful to me.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 11:01 AM   #48
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Still not sure what the point of "cutting edge" is, then, if it's not faster, much less stable, and prone to not even boot. Doesn't sound very useful to me.
I think it's for the people who want to tinker with the latest stuff or have a special hardware setup, like NVIDIA Optimus for example, which is a pretty new feature from the latest kernel.

For stability, I'd always go with something like Debian or a Ubuntu LTS release. CentOS is also great for stability, but I think Ubuntu/Debian have more "Desktopy" features. I love my Kubuntu 12.04 for this.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 11:25 AM   #49
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I think it's for the people who want to tinker with the latest stuff or have a special hardware setup, like NVIDIA Optimus for example, which is a pretty new feature from the latest kernel.

For stability, I'd always go with something like Debian or a Ubuntu LTS release. CentOS is also great for stability, but I think Ubuntu/Debian have more "Desktopy" features. I love my Kubuntu 12.04 for this.
You could also just install a newer upstream kernel (very easy) on your stable system.

Other problem would be xorg-drivers (they work partly in userpace).
Almost all big distros support Bumblebee for Optimus though.

Debian example (notice that Wheezy will become the new stable this night):
http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
 
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Well, I like to tinker too, but I also need to have my computer working when I need it...I can't really afford to have the system go down and waste all the time fixing it again. Features are nice, but stability is critical.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 01:38 PM   #51
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Well, I like to tinker too, but I also need to have my computer working when I need it...I can't really afford to have the system go down and waste all the time fixing it again. Features are nice, but stability is critical.
Exactly, that's why I have a multi-boot setup with Kubuntu LTS and CentOS for super-stability and a rolling-release distro on a different hard drive for the tinkering.

Another good way to test out new things which could break your system would be to install a distro in VirtualBox. That way, if you break something, it does not affect your working system at all.
 
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