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Old 01-28-2012, 11:44 PM   #16
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You might try Debian. Essentially it's Ubuntu without the hype, bugs or commercialisation. Download the Live CD, burn it to disk, start from there.
I think you have that completely back to front. Ubuntu is a Debian derivative not the other way around. If it wasn't for Debian Ubuntu wouldn't even exist.

Download DebianLive and try it out.
 
Old 01-29-2012, 08:43 AM   #17
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I think you have that completely back to front. Ubuntu is a Debian derivative not the other way around. If it wasn't for Debian Ubuntu wouldn't even exist.

Download DebianLive and try it out.
Irony is wasted.
 
Old 01-29-2012, 12:26 PM   #18
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Irony is wasted.
The OP posted in Linux-Newbie, he joined LQ this year and he has 6 posts. I think your attempt at irony was misplaced when we don't know how much the OP knows about Linux. Spreading misinformation may give you a sense of irony, for others who later deal with newbies who have been misled it can be frustrating.
 
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There was no "real" misinformation there. Indeed, is there any?

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You might try Debian. Essentially it's Ubuntu without the hype, bugs or commercialisation. Download the Live CD, burn it to disk, start from there.
After all, if Ubuntu is Debian with added hype, bugs and commercialisation, surely the inverse is also true. I don't actually say what proceeded what -- you infer that.
 
Old 01-29-2012, 01:36 PM   #20
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There was no "real" misinformation there. Indeed, is there any?



After all, if Ubuntu is Debian with added hype, bugs and commercialisation, surely the inverse is also true. I don't actually say what proceeded what -- you infer that.
Why have you got "real" in inverted commas? It is either fact or it is not fact. You can't have both.

I didn't infer anything, I clearly stated that misinformation can be frustrating to others in the future. There are a heap of posts throughout LQ saying basically what you said. Ubuntu is not essentially Debian, it is based on Debian but it is highly modified and the two distributions are not binarily compatible. Ubuntu has a different kernel it uses things that Debian does not. Yes Ubuntu uses dpkg etc and uses Debians repo structure BUT that is pretty much where the similarities end.

If you want something that is essentially Debian try one of Linux Mints Debian Editions. 99% of them come straight from Debian's repositories.
 
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I did not use the expression "essential" at all.

"real" to cover the evident inference on your part
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I think you have that completely back to front. Ubuntu is a Debian derivative not the other way around. If it wasn't for Debian Ubuntu wouldn't even exist.
I do not mention a time line. The reality is that any distro which does not borrow good stuff from other distros is one led by fools. Linux is, after all, a Unix re-written from scratch, presumably because Torvalds liked the original(s).

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If you want something that is essentially Debian try one of Linux Mints Debian Editions.
Or, there's Debian, of course. Which is where I came in............
 
Old 01-29-2012, 03:33 PM   #22
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I did not use the expression "essential" at all.
So what's this from post 15?
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You might try Debian. Essentially it's Ubuntu without the hype, bugs or commercialisation.

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"real" to cover the evident inference on your part
I inferred nothing, I called you on your error. Just like I called you on your above error.
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I do not mention a time line.
I is frustrating to correct noobs knowledge that they have received because people are wrong with details when they post and later allege it is an "irony". Nothing about "timeline" has been mentioned until you mention "timeline". If you want to get technical maybe you should fix your other errors as well.

Do you want to keep this going?

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