[SOLVED] having a problem with lfs linux from scratch

linux/unix87 · 01-30-2011, 08:23 PM

i do understand some of the lfs book. what really confused me was a.out and elf i think that was about it.

linux/unix87 · 01-30-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD

You actually didn't get the point. You should not sit there and wait. Knowledge doesn't come from nothing. But to do LFS, you have to know the basics of Linux, at least you should know the command line, how to compile software, how partitions work, all the stuff from the prerequisites-site in the LFS-book. Practice that before your next LFS-try. Set yourself an aim and work towards that. Go from easy to difficult (jumping right into LFS is the wrong approach, it makes no sense to begin with the difficult). Or in other words, learn to walk before running a marathon. Search yourself a tutorial for bash-programming with a practical approach for example. Or anything else that interests you. Just reading the LFS-book and copying the commands will teach you nothing, if you don't understand the commands (what they do and why you want to do what they do) that are used.

By the way, Slackware is a good OS to learn exactly that. To get the graphical interface just log in at the commandline and issue the startx-command.

what are the basics? The reason im asking is to start from there. When i started using linux ive just been kinda thrown around everywhere so i really never had the RIGHT starting point if you get what i mean. So if you dont care to tell me what the basics are i will do the homework. One more thing, if i do have a problem is there some other kind of website etc to go to besides a forum? Im not saying you guys arent being helpful its just that i dont know where to go to tell you the honest truth. so sorry if im bugging anybody.

TobiSGD · 01-30-2011, 09:05 PM

The basics:
- Learn how to work on the command-line. I would recommend to learn a little bit of bash programming, so that you get a feeling for the commandline and its power.
- Read manpages to learn how commands work. I know you don't like that part, but have at least a look at some manpages, so that you learn their structure and how to obtain information from them.
- Read the information that is mentioned on the prerequisite-page in the LFS-book.

Try to understand all that, at least basically. Then have a look at the LFS book again, and try to get information on the parts you don't understand.

onebuck · 01-31-2011, 06:03 AM

Hi,

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Originally Posted by linux/unix87

what are the basics? The reason im asking is to start from there. When i started using linux ive just been kinda thrown around everywhere so i really never had the RIGHT starting point if you get what i mean. So if you dont care to tell me what the basics are i will do the homework. One more thing, if i do have a problem is there some other kind of website etc to go to besides a forum? Im not saying you guys arent being helpful its just that i dont know where to go to tell you the honest truth. so sorry if im bugging anybody.

Earlier in post #15 several suggestions were made to learn the basics. You are not going to learn by just posting single questions or problems. You need to know the semantics and syntax involved so you can perform desired actions plus able to present solid queries that we can understand.

LFS is not something to expect to garner this type of experience(s), the parties involved are expected to already have the necessary experience to accomplish the tasks presented.

Your choice of Gnu/Linux will dictate the quality or depth of experience you will garner. I like to recommend Slackware, sure it may seem difficult to some since Slackware is not a hold your hand distribution. If you want to experience admin and operational interaction with a Gnu/Linux then Slackware would be a good choice. If interested then look at 'Get Slackware Linux'. After working with Slack a while you would then most likely have the knowledge & understanding to use LFS.

This thread is really convoluted and at some point it is going to be closed. OP you do need to make some decisions. Members have provided loads of recommendations and directions. Decide!

markush · 01-31-2011, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by onebuck

...I like to recommend Slackware, sure it may seem difficult to some since Slackware is not a hold your hand distribution. If you want to experience admin and operational interaction with a Gnu/Linux then Slackware would be a good choice. If interested then look at 'Get Slackware Linux'. After working with Slack a while you would then most likely have the knowledge & understanding to use LFS...

I agree with onebuck! Slackware is great for learning-purposes.

Markus