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Old 01-22-2011, 09:26 PM   #46
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You have to go back thru the post and look for information on that, I don't know anything about lfs, and use guided partitioning.
usually / has own partition and then all others are within extended(logical).
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
so what your saying is your home then swap and the rest of your partitions are in the extended?
 
Old 01-22-2011, 09:28 PM   #47
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Loging on to other machine to show you.
 
Old 01-22-2011, 09:33 PM   #48
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Old 01-22-2011, 09:44 PM   #49
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actually my root is within my logical on sda5
 
Old 01-22-2011, 09:55 PM   #50
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This is mine.
where is /dev/sda4? ok well linux from scratch uses the host system to build a sum what small kernel and according to the manual you have the host system which in my case is ubuntu 10.10 on half the hard drive which is fine i dont need to actually partition the installed distro. i have to partition the lfs. so far with gparted i made /dev/sda1 49.33 GB and /dev/sda2 extended 39.06 GB,/dev/sda5 linux swap 10 GB, unallocated 29.30 GB, /dev/sda3 lfs 9.77 GB and then unallocated 199.93 GB. would this be fine so far?
 
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sda1-4 are primary partitions I'm only using 3 primaries 2 for windows and 1 for linux.
Any partitions you put in extende or logical will start after sda5 and continu there on sda,6,7,8 etc.
 
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If I add another os I can either resize my extend and add it within that or create sda4 as another primary logical.
Like I said I'm not very experienced at this part.
 
Old 01-22-2011, 11:00 PM   #53
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well i greatly appreciate the help from you and markush I understand partitioning a little better. thank you I hope one day i will get lfs on the road.... maybe lol
 
Old 01-22-2011, 11:09 PM   #54
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I have a few things to try like debian sid slackware & lfs.
I'm glad I could help a little, wish I could do more.
 
Old 01-22-2011, 11:20 PM   #55
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You really don't need 10gb for swap, but it doesn't hurt anything until drive space starts getting scarce. From what I've read only 1-2gb of max swap space is needed but that is still debatable. Partition naming problems can arise sometimes with currently installed distros whenever you go to create new partitions in unallocated space between already created partitions. Some people like to put /boot and /home on partitions separate from the root file system. For the time being the partitioning scheme will work if this is mainly for learning. Would suggest doing some googling on partitioning schemes.

AS others have suggested, I also think you should leave LFS alone until you have a better understanding of how things work in linux. I would suggest trying to install Gentoo before LFS. Gentoo has excellent documentation, involves compiling, is about two or three steps above LFS, is a little easier to install, and is also a good learning experience. There is also an alternate install instructions to install Gentoo from another distro if that's what you want to do.

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...AS others have suggested, I also think you should leave LFS alone until you have a better understanding of how things work in linux. I would suggest trying to install Gentoo before LFS. Gentoo has excellent documentation, involves compiling, is about two or three steps above LFS, is a little easier to install, and is also a good learning experience. There is also an alternate install instructions to install Gentoo from another distro if that's what you want to do.
I agree, but even Gentoo is very hard if one is new to Linux. I would suggest Slackware for people who want to learn about Linux. If one has used Slackware for a few month and has intensely studied the system, he may be ready for other more difficult installations like Gentoo or LFS.

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I do have slackware 13.1 but for some reason its harder to install and also do you know if it has a gui interface? when i finally got it to install all it was was a command prompt? oh and i decided to wait on lfs but my big question on that is how do you learn something if you dont just jump in and do it? like i said before on another thread im a hands on guy reading doesnt really do it for me but dont think im not reading any of this man pages etc. on the how to's for lfs im on chapter 8 so far, taking notes to. i guess what im trying to say is if i dont have anything to practice on to learn linux what is waiting going to do? If i wait like everybody is telling me a couple of years or so im really not going to know it then. becaus i have nothing to practice on. thanks
 
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I'm sold on Virtual Machines If you blow the installation, you only blow a virtual hard drive. If you try different distros you can try them all. Bottom line you don't destroy anything in the process of learning how to install.
 
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I do have slackware 13.1 but for some reason its harder to install and also do you know if it has a gui interface? when i finally got it to install all it was was a command prompt? oh and i decided to wait on lfs but my big question on that is how do you learn something if you dont just jump in and do it? like i said before on another thread im a hands on guy reading doesnt really do it for me but dont think im not reading any of this man pages etc. on the how to's for lfs im on chapter 8 so far, taking notes to. i guess what im trying to say is if i dont have anything to practice on to learn linux what is waiting going to do? If i wait like everybody is telling me a couple of years or so im really not going to know it then. becaus i have nothing to practice on. thanks
You actually didn't get the point. You should not sit there and wait. Knowledge doesn't come from nothing. But to do LFS, you have to know the basics of Linux, at least you should know the command line, how to compile software, how partitions work, all the stuff from the prerequisites-site in the LFS-book. Practice that before your next LFS-try. Set yourself an aim and work towards that. Go from easy to difficult (jumping right into LFS is the wrong approach, it makes no sense to begin with the difficult). Or in other words, learn to walk before running a marathon. Search yourself a tutorial for bash-programming with a practical approach for example. Or anything else that interests you. Just reading the LFS-book and copying the commands will teach you nothing, if you don't understand the commands (what they do and why you want to do what they do) that are used.

By the way, Slackware is a good OS to learn exactly that. To get the graphical interface just log in at the commandline and issue the startx-command.
 
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Hello linux/unix87,

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I do have slackware 13.1 but for some reason its harder to install and also do you know if it has a gui interface? when i finally got it to install all it was was a command prompt?...
read the slackbook http://www.slackbook.org/html/index.html
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...oh and i decided to wait on lfs but my big question on that is how do you learn something if you dont just jump in and do it? like i said before on another thread im a hands on guy reading doesnt really do it for me but dont think im not reading any of this man pages etc...
Reading the manpages is a very efficient approach in most cases. But one has to learn how to read manpages
The point is that all manpages have the same structure and with some experience one can find the required information very fast without reading the whole page. An example: You found anywhere in the internet the option -sV for the nmap program, if you want to know what the option does you open the manpage
Code:
man nmap
and issue the command
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/-sV
in order to search for the -sV option...
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... on the how to's for lfs im on chapter 8 so far...
When I was a newbie to Linux I wouldn't have understood anything of the lfs-book whereas nowadays it is often a very valuable source for information when it comes to building the kernel or any packages for any distribution (Gentoo or Slackware).
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... i guess what im trying to say is if i dont have anything to practice on to learn linux what is waiting going to do? If i wait like everybody is telling me a couple of years or so im really not going to know it then. becaus i have nothing to practice on. thanks
Maybe this is what people mean when speaking about a steep learning-curve, one has to search for his/her own way to learn Linux, there isn't one and the same approach for all of us, but one must not lament, it was your decision to use Linux.
And as you know Linux is not Windows!

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