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Old 06-07-2006, 02:58 AM   #1
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GRUB screen after several Linux reinstallations


Hi,
I installed and reinstalled different versions of Fedora on my experimental PC and the last unfinished installation of Fedora Core 1 left me with a dark screen presenting GNU GRUB command line. I would like to get out of it and proceed with normal installation from the CD...
GNU GRUB version 0.97 on a Celeron 800 MHz, 192 MB RAM and 40GB HDD...
 
Old 06-07-2006, 03:36 AM   #2
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Hello achtung linux,

You may simply reboot the machine with boot from cdrom enabled in BIOS setup.
Is this what you want?
Or you want to use grub command line to start the installation again?
I dont think that it would be possible.
 
Old 06-07-2006, 03:59 AM   #3
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The problem is that when I reboot and installation CD is in the drive (with boot from CD previously configured in BIOS) I still get presented with GRUB and not with installation splash screen.
How to get out of the GRUB screen and proceed with the installation, is there a command for that...
This problem started after I unsuccesfully installed Fedora Core 1 on third attempted installation... yeah, I got carried away on my dedicated Linux box...
 
Old 06-07-2006, 01:48 PM   #4
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... or maybe HDD is gone? I cannot pass through the dark GRUB screen and onto installation mode. CD-ROM is set to be first to boot from at BIOS boot settings...
 
Old 06-07-2006, 02:25 PM   #5
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Hi

If your BIOS is set correctly to boot from the CD and it is taking you directly the grub screen from you hard drive, then CD is not working (possibly corrupted? Did you check the media before install?) Are you starting with CD1 or trying to continue with the install from subsequent CDs? If your CD is OK then there is no reason it won't boot. If you see a grub screen then it has partially installed already.

Try starting the installation from scratch again. If it does not work, your CD is corrupted, I would guess.

Bob
 
Old 06-07-2006, 02:51 PM   #6
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Hi

If your BIOS is set correctly to boot from the CD and it is taking you directly the grub screen from you hard drive, then CD is not working (possibly corrupted? Did you check the media before install?) Are you starting with CD1 or trying to continue with the install from subsequent CDs? If your CD is OK then there is no reason it won't boot. If you see a grub screen then it has partially installed already.

Try starting the installation from scratch again. If it does not work, your CD is corrupted, I would guess.

Bob
CD was working perfectly for all the previous installations. Media check was done on FC5 last time I installed it, and tehre were no errors. CD1 of FC5 is right now in the CD tray.
Probelm started after 2 unseccsfull installations of FC1. The root command reveals hd0, 0 disc (the HDD) and filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83.
GRUB screen shows up regardless of version of Fedora CD that is in the tray...
 
Old 06-07-2006, 04:08 PM   #7
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Do you have a live cd version of Linux (knoppix, etc.)? If you do, try booting to it just to eliminate the hardware from the investigation. If it will boot from a live cd, it will conclusive show the Fedora CD to be the problem. I had this problem myself a while back, and I spend hours/days trying to figure it out when I finally tried a live cd and it booted right to it. I reburned the install cd's and everything installed OK.

If your hardware (BIOS set to boot cd) is OK, I can't conclude anything but a bad cd.

Sorry I couldn't be more help

Bob
 
Old 06-07-2006, 09:03 PM   #8
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For the sake of completness, I tried to boot from Windows XP CD... same GRUB screen...
 
Old 06-07-2006, 09:51 PM   #9
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In that case your CDrom is either:

1) Not set to be the first boot choice (you say it is, so...)
2) Your CDrom is hosed.

If 2 obviously different bootable CD's won't boot, and it is getting to your hard drive, it must not be reading the CDrom. You can check out the connectors between the motherboard and the drive, or go to pricewatch or another such site and buy a super cheap CDrom drive for $5 or thereabouts.

Hardware failure sucks!

Peace,
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Old 06-08-2006, 02:47 AM   #10
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i had similar problem when booting from cd. first i installed my linux, then i f%d it up and had install again. so in bios i set first boot device to be cd-rom. restarted but it didnt work, it showed me the old grub screen. so i tryed few more times without success.

my solution was this :

i heard that my cd-rom didnt spin-up as fast that needed to boot from it (never had that problem before), so in bios put every booting device to cd-rom and after that it worked. when installation done remember to reverse the bios settings.

hope this help
 
Old 06-09-2006, 01:15 PM   #11
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OK riizikaz, just how do you put every booting device to cd-rom, since you can only arrange the order of booting devices?
Items on the Boot menu of my BIOS:
-Boot Time Diagnostic Scren: Enabled/Disabled
-Floppy Check: Enabled/Disabled
1.ATAPI CD-ROM Drive
2.[Hard Drive]
3.[Network Boot]
4.[Removable Devices]
-Hard Drive: Maxtor 9614* //the name of the hard drive/Bootable Add-In cards
-Removable Devices [Legacy Floppy cards]
How do you put every booting device to cd-rom?
 
Old 06-10-2006, 12:31 AM   #12
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Hello Achtung Linux,

If your BIOS can not allow you to do so, You can set your first bootable device to:-
ATAPI CDROM
and others to none.
(Other way remove cables for HDD for a while)

Hope this will help you out.

Because all this is about experimentation, trial and error.
 
Old 06-11-2006, 10:25 PM   #13
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That is exactly the difference between garrage experiments (trial and error) and professional software development (predictable behaviour in all scenarios).
Users of Fedora Core 5 are asked to do an update on their kernel due to a typo in the source code... a typo in a final release, now that is very, very professional.
An OS that may or may not fry a piece of the hardware it is installed on is also very, very predictable...
Just for the sake of completness, I tried the last suggestion about disconnecting the HDD... and that was predictable all right: "Operating system not found"...
 
Old 06-12-2006, 05:19 AM   #14
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Hello Achtung Linux,


You started the thread with:-
Quote:
I installed and reinstalled different versions of Fedora on my experimental PC and the last unfinished installation of Fedora Core 1
Where you say its your experimental PC.
Another thing:-
Quote:
Originally Posted by achtung Linux
That is exactly the difference between garrage experiments (trial and error) and professional software development (predictable behaviour in all scenarios).
Quote:
Originally Posted by achtung Linux
Users of Fedora Core 5 are asked to do an update on their kernel due to a typo in the source code... a typo in a final release, now that is very, very professional.
It is not a guarage experience, You are part of a world lab when you use FEDORA core. Fedora is a TEST Platform which when is matuared is turned into RHEL or RHAS. If you want professional software development (predictable behaviour in all scenarios); Please, go for some other distribution which is more stable (IN ALL SCENARIOS).
Don't ever forget that when you are using something which is brain child of other persons to pay them something in back in any sense rather than blaming.

Last point:-

Quote:
Originally Posted by achtung Linux
Just for the sake of completness, I tried the last suggestion about disconnecting the HDD... and that was predictable all right: "Operating system not found"...
Are you trying to boot the machine with hard disk disconnected and BIOS not set to :- BOOT FROM CD-ROM?

Try to boot with CD-ROM as you have been told earlier in this thread so many times and you will now get rid of the problem.

Hope you will not mind this but the feeling I am trying to convey you.


PS:- Think if you get hurt:- What would those people who proactively created this may think if they are blamed this way.
 
Old 06-12-2006, 05:21 AM   #15
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Hi again,

What does achtung linux mean?

Is it something like:- Watch out, Linux or Beware, Linux?

Bye
 
  


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