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Old 04-17-2024, 07:18 AM   #196
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Im sorry.
There was panic.

Was this ok?
Booting.
Interrupt with "e"
Replace the line with linux at the beginning the "quiet" with "1"?
 
Old 04-17-2024, 09:13 AM   #197
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What happens if you replace quiet with rootwait
 
Old 04-17-2024, 07:25 PM   #198
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If this hasn't already been tried (I'm not going to read the whole thread again), OP should boot the kernel that does boot, then try building a new initrd.img for the 5.10.0-28-686-pae kernel. Start by logging in as root, then opening /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf in a text editor, then ensuring that MODULES=most, rather than MODULES=dep, editing if necessary. After than is done, then do:
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update-initramfs -u -k 5.10.0-28-686-pae
then reboot using the default 5.10.0-28-686-pae Grub selection without changing anything.
 
Old 04-19-2024, 12:59 PM   #199
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What happens if you replace quiet with rootwait
Sorry.
There was panic.

Code:
" /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf in a text editor, then ensuring that MODULES=most, rather than MODULES=dep, editing if necessary. After than is done, then do:
Code:
update-initramfs -u -k 5.10.0-28-686-pae
then reboot using the default 5.10.0-28-686-pae Grub selection without changing anything.  "

Maybe
when there is panic
what do I have to do?
Shall I edit initramfs.conf again the term "MODULES" back?
Thank You.

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Old 04-19-2024, 09:02 PM   #200
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Report here input/ouput using code tags from:
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ls -lgG /boot/
 
Old 04-20-2024, 12:10 PM   #201
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Thank You.


Code:
$ ls -lgG /boot/
insgesamt 220636
-rw-r--r-- 1   189212  7. Mär 2022  config-4.9.0-18-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1   236066 31. Dez 16:46 config-5.10.0-27-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1   236066 31. Jan 22:14 config-5.10.0-28-686-pae
drwxr-xr-x 5     4096 26. Feb 21:01 grub
-rw-r--r-- 1 17593666 12. Mär 2022  initrd.img-4.9.0-18-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1 63751348 24. Jan 21:38 initrd.img-5.10.0-15-686-pae.old
-rw-r--r-- 1 63790452  2. Feb 17:12 initrd.img-5.10.0-27-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1 63787533 21. Feb 13:01 initrd.img-5.10.0-28-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1  2517205  7. Mär 2022  System.map-4.9.0-18-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1       83 31. Dez 16:46 System.map-5.10.0-27-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1       83 31. Jan 22:14 System.map-5.10.0-28-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1  3702240  7. Mär 2022  vmlinuz-4.9.0-18-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1  5042208 31. Dez 16:46 vmlinuz-5.10.0-27-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1  5042752 31. Jan 22:14 vmlinuz-5.10.0-28-686-pae
 
Old 04-21-2024, 11:14 PM   #202
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I wanted to see that the initrd sizes were appropriately full of possible needs. 63,787,533 should have everything possibly needed.

Try booting by adding nosmp where you had previously put nomodeset at the end of the linu line in the Grub edit menu. If that doesn't help, try again using maxcpus=0 instead.
 
Old 04-22-2024, 07:57 PM   #203
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It sounds to me like the OPs machine may have been in middle of either starting or finishing an up date and getting inpatient the OP may have either performed the ctrl+alt+delete which might be the reason he is having this issue.

The other cause might be that there may have been an un met package dependency which may have had something to do with a file(s) needed at boot time.
 
Old 04-23-2024, 07:35 AM   #204
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I dont understand the post from
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Thank Xou.

I will interrupt booting and
replace

nomodeset with nosmp


or

I repace nomodeset

with

maxcpus=0
 
Old 04-23-2024, 10:20 PM   #205
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Quote:
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I will interrupt booting and
replace

nomodeset with nosmp

or

I repace nomodeset

with

maxcpus=0
If nomodeset is not already there, you must nevertheless add nosmp or maxcpus=0 to the linu line for valid testing.
 
Old 04-24-2024, 06:49 AM   #206
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I did both ideas
but both created panic.
Thank You.
 
Old 04-24-2024, 05:04 PM   #207
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Can you take a picture of the entire panic screen and attach it here? There could be a clue there. If not, I'm out of suggestions, other than that your CPU supports the amd64 version of Debian, and the time is overdue to install it in place of the current failing 32bit installation.
 
Old 04-25-2024, 07:24 AM   #208
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I did burn LIVE CD
LXDE 64 bit Dbian 12
but there was panic.
I did check
the PC can use Linux 64 bit.

What happen.
I di start.
Then I see the LOGO of Debian
then
black screen.

I also tried other distros like Knoppix Fedora...
but
same crash.

Im sorry.

Shall I post some crazy ideas of mine?
 
Old 04-25-2024, 09:05 PM   #209
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Kernel panic can be caused by failing hardware. Your computer is roughly 16 years old. You may investigate obvious hardware failure by removing the cover, then inspecting each of the 7mm diameter or wider electrolytic capacitors for oozing, leaking, or top surfaces that are no longer perfectly flat. Visit badcaps.net to see examples of failures. Any of these you might find are indications of failure. The PSU also contains the same types of caps subject to the same type of failure. Usually one would expect that if any kernel works without panic, then every kernel should work as well. However, there are exceptions to general rules, and this could be one of them.

It's also possible, though unlikely, memory deterioration could lead to panic due to the boot process claiming more RAM with the newer kernels, and always hitting a same bad spot. Memtest86 or memtest86+ tests can reveal whether RAM remains in usable condition. If more than one RAM device is installed, one or more may be temporarily removed in turn to see whether it affects behavior.

While the cover is off, ensure there is no dust accumulation that could cause component overheating, and see to it that all fans work with no broken plastic parts to interfere with cooling and lead to overheat damage.
 
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Old 04-26-2024, 08:52 AM   #210
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So do buy a new PC?
But why is Debian running.
At the beginning of this thread there was made a hardware check: No problem.
Ideas:
Clean HD with bleachbit or other cleaning tool?
Update to 12.
And why did appear the problem during/after update?
Does LINUX every step save in a file?
Can we read this file?
Thank You for patient help.

PS
I do clean the PC inside every 6 months.
Only a little bit of dust.

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