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This thread seems not to be continuous. It seems to be chopped into pieces. The last set of replies I received answered most of the questions I had, and now I can't find the most important information I have received.
Will someone please tell me more about the organisation of this forum and this thread, and how to find pieces which seem to have disappeared?
This thread seems not to be continuous. It seems to be chopped into pieces. The last set of replies I received answered most of the questions I had, and now I can't find the most important information I have received.
Will someone please tell me more about the organisation of this forum and this thread, and how to find pieces which seem to have disappeared?
My last said that I had recovered the entire thread. It seems to have been truncated again, and this time I am not seeing the link to show the whole thread. Am I not seeing something which is here? If that link is not here now, could you tell me how to recover the whole thread without it?
Is there some way I can preserve the whole thread if I get it back?
Preserving works with:
- screenshot from your computer or even with a camera
- copy info and paste to your own text file of choice and saving
- saving whole html page with File... Save
- Printing page as hardcopy or pdf (works in linux normally)
I have been using Microsoft OSs since DOS. I learned enough to use the programs without too much difficulty, but I not enough to understand the Linux support articles I have found so far. Windows 10 has given me a powerful reason to take another look, with the same result. The support articles I found were over my head; I didn't understand all of the vocabulary.
Is there any way this semi-computer literate non-geek can learn to use Linux? I have been told that the easiest aproach for a Windows user is the Cinnamon version with the Mint GUI. That is what I investigated most recently.
Can anyone tell me of a source of comprehensible instruction and support?
First and foremost, Welcome to LQ!
I think you'll find that there is a LOT of information however not always organized, and the other issue is that we all have different forms of organization. Hence why they have big huge printed START HERE placards on products we buy. Startup guides, so that people are told even though the promptly rip that piece of paper off right away to look at and unpack their new electronics.
I'm sure you've googled a bit on the topic. So you likely have heard of Linux distribution names, such as Mint, Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora, Debian, and so forth. Two of the most usable for beginners are Ubuntu and Mint. From there you can download a disk image and burn that to a CD, a DVD, a thumb stick. You'll have to learn how to burn the image. Once again, that's a google, however the various Linux download sites tell you how to do that.
The other option is to run under a virtual machine. So you can download Virtual Box from Oracle, it is free and you then have to learn how to still download the disk image for a Linux distribution and then run it under this virtual machine you've installed. Once again, you have to walk a bit before you can fly ahead and fluently use this stuff.
Sorry, but there are rarely situations where you'll find Linux fully installed and ready to go for your needs. That's a problem.
As far as doing the boot off of an install disk or virtual machine, you can start additional threads to describe specific blocks or problems you've encountered there and people will likely offer to help.
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Originally Posted by cbrookej
Thanks to all who replied. You have assured me that I can learn to use Linux, but you haven't told me how/where to learn.
I have spent a few hours looking for help with Linux, and I still haven't found instructions and support which I can understand. Vocabulary has been a major issue. A glossary would be a huge help. One instruction I found involved changing the BIOS; I've been there, and there is much (most?) in there that I don't understand. One long sequence of actions (with side trips) which I found looked to me like a potential minefield.
Using DOS/Windows for thirty years has not prepared me to use the information about Linux which I have found so far.
Can you tell me where I can find more comprehensible instruction and support? It would have to require a lower level of sophistication than materials I have found so far. A glossary would be a very big help.
There have been some links offered by this point. I'll also add that various members have links in their signatures which are helpful. Mine less so for Linux beginners, instead mine are more programming oriented. User Habitual has a list of helpful links here so check that out as well.
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Originally Posted by cbrookej
This thread seems not to be continuous. It seems to be chopped into pieces. The last set of replies I received answered most of the questions I had, and now I can't find the most important information I have received.
Will someone please tell me more about the organisation of this forum and this thread, and how to find pieces which seem to have disappeared?
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Originally Posted by cbrookej
My last said that I had recovered the entire thread. It seems to have been truncated again, and this time I am not seeing the link to show the whole thread. Am I not seeing something which is here? If that link is not here now, could you tell me how to recover the whole thread without it?
Is there some way I can preserve the whole thread if I get it back?
I'm not sure exactly what you're experiencing here. One suggestion I can make is for you to go to the MyLQ link at the top right of your LQ page and that will bring you to, your own profile. Next on the left there will be a Settings and Options area where you can choose Edit Options, and under there down a screen or so will be a chunk allowing you to configure your Thread Display Options and you can choose to view more than the normal amount of threads per page.
However note that without doing any of the options choices, you should be able to see pages in your thread view where at the bottom or top you can browse to the first, last, or next pages for multi-page threads. Just in my case I do have mine set to display up to 50 messages per thread view page and thus with fewer than 50 answers here, I see your entire thread all on one view.
If neither of these are working for you, can you be more descriptive about exactly what the issue is? I can see the entire thread, be that all on one page or across multiple pages. We'd like to help but we'll need to know some more details about this particular problem.
[QUOTE=rtmistler;5555354]First and foremost, Welcome to LQ!
>...user/habitual-558710/"]Habitual[/URL] has a list of helpful links
I found Habitual, but I didn't find helpful links. I dare not go back to it to look again now because I have lost this thread, or my text, when I have tried to check other pages.
>I'm not sure exactly what you're experiencing here.
One suggestion I can make is for you to go to the MyLQ link at the top right of your LQ page and that will bring you to, your own profile.
All the MyLQ link got me was a statement that there were no threads in that time period, or something to that effect. When I tried to go back to copy the exact message, and got back to this thread, I had lost the message I had just copied.
>Next on the left there will be a Settings and Options area where you can choose Edit Options, and under there down a screen or so will be a chunk allowing you to configure your Thread Display Options and you can choose to view more than the normal amount of threads per page.
I found this, changed some options, but after editing Options I could see no obvious way to return to this thread. I wandered around other pages on the site, including one which said the thread hsd been terminated, or something to that effect, and eventually found one which permitted me to return to this thread. The route back was not obvious.
It seems to be very easy to get separateted from this thread, and sometimes difficult to return. Pages without Back buttons have been a problem.
>However note that without doing any of the options choices, you should be able to see pages in your thread view...
I didn't notice this. Where is my thread view?
In starting this reply I can no longer see the thread, and sometimes in the past, when I have tried to go back to check something, I have lost the text I just typed. So I won't go back until I have posted this.
>If neither of these are working for you, can you be more descriptive about exactly what the issue is?
I think that editing options solved that problem. My biggest problem was getting back to this thread afterwards. I have found this site quirky.
Not in the slightest. Bookmarks did not occur to me; thank you for pointing out what should have been obvious. Sometimes my aging brain fails to think of things which might have been obvious ten or twenty years ago. Someday your brain may get old enough to have similar problems.
And I have had some quirky experiencess on this site, which I have rarely encountered elsewhere. I have found it peculiarly frustrating. I suspect there is some sort of internal logic to it, perhaps peculiar to the Linux community; I may get better at it with practice.
>As you appear I must correct myself: you definitely need to be a professional geek to run linux (or windows).
Actually, I think recent replies have given me the resources I need to try Linux. I plan to get it installed next week. If I must be a professional geek to use Windows, then I must be one. It appears that greater professionalism is required for Linux, which I hope to acquire.
>What are you planning to do with the computer, please?
I use it in a home office, mostly for email and web browsing, also for other odds and ends like finances and taxes. I may be older and dumber than the average visitor to this site, but my efforts are quite sincere. And I greatly appreciate the information contributors given me; I think I now have enough to get on with Linux. My sincere thanks to all who have helped me!
Last edited by cbrookej; 06-03-2016 at 06:14 PM.
Reason: Incomplete transmission
I have certinly made progress on my question, but it is of an ongoing nature. I suspect I will need more help when I start trying to use Linux, so I'm reluctant to call it solved.
My thanks to all who have helped me. I hope you will give me more help when I need it. Perhaps another thread--I'll just have to see how this develops.
Thanks for telling that. Sorry for my unfriendly post.
I think If we want to achieve something in the technical world and try, then we will.
The thing is that you seem not to be very experienced with basic stuff, like researching terms with google and using this forum's interface. Also not basic stuff like using your browser in an experienced way. But having used several forum softwares, google search syntax, and knowing browser settings are in my view basic abilities and success factors. As basic knowledge speeds up a process that will in it's own be long, still. If you have the time and will, you will do it. But it won't be very fast I think until you understand the linux. But it's good that you indeed have computer expierence. That will be a basis.
Actually I would like to help you a lot.
Just in written without seeing what you do or being able for personal conversation it will take up literally days.
I wish you good success. Maybe I can answer one of your questions.
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