Yeah mydomain.com seems like a pretty cool registrar. Usually a registar just sells you the name... and then points it at whatever DNS servers you tell them to. For instance, to see mine, just: 'whois clockwatching.net' These guys will sell you the name and DNS, pretty cheap too, or at least a buttload cheaper than www.networksolutions.com (ripoff twerps). Granitecanyon is great because... well, its free! Sometimes though... avoiding the hastle is worth $20 or so.

My DNS is provided by a friend that runs procyon.com and has way too many statics and a lot of UPSs and extra gear he got off of VaLinux when they ditched the hardware biz. Running your own Bind is helpful in the long run as it shortens a lot of the cached nslookups to the cabling in your house, but for sanity's sake I recommend keeping your DNS off-site. Yeah, you're not really self-sufficient that way, but the smartest way to go about it is to make a trade with a friend who's doing the same thing you are and have a name-server apiece for each other's domains. One is almost always up.

When you mentioned you had sshd and such already running... do you mean that, and for clarity's sake lets call this domain of yours... heck bob.com resolves? Can you just 'ssh bob@bob.com' and get in? If so then it is an apache issue... hmm...

Or, what I'm assuming is the case, is that you're about to buy bob.com and before you were talking about ssh resolving under 'ssh bob@mysubthing.dyn.ca'?

Oh... and Qmail is a raging headache to set-up. It might be near impossible if you let RH partition your drives for you (i'd explain, but lets just say Qmail is weird). Give Sendmail a whirl. Most likely it will work right after a little tweaking with /etc/hosts. If it does the job alright, it just won't ever break... probably.

Still want that copy of my DNS record? or just fly with mydomain.com?

-Cheers,

Finegan

Bare with me for a second as I am trying to follow all of this.

Ok, so you are saying that you are using finegan's option A where by your ISP, where you get internet access is providing your DNS service

hmm. maybe, I should ring up RR

What should I ask them so that they dont get pissed and shut me down

I think RR is much cooler than that. I have one friend running things off of his static with no issues. You have to remember that RR as an end service provider is making about $5 a month off of you so they're not even going to bother to police all of the connections even if it were against your contract, which I doubt it is.

Cheers,

Finegan

Over-thinking. Just do it.

Less glibly, I don't know how your ISP markets itself, but mine (Megapath) is all about providing SDSL connectivity and not about renting hard drive space to its customers. They expect the customer to bring a server to the party and ask to be pointed at. They also expect the customer to ask for virtual hosts to be pointed at. That said, they also provide server space for those who don't have their own.

I notice you guys have been quoting price for service: I'll head this off right now by admitting that I probably pay the most for what I'm getting. But, it works and the support is there, knowledgeable, courteous and prompt. I figure I'm getting what I pay for. I only mention this in case you decide to check out the provider and get a bad case of sticker shock.

I've researched every provider for my area from DSLi to Bellsuck, to diddly-do-do bought a colo. Its hard finding the salad bar. Speakeasy is pretty much a salad bar. Ballpark of $65, an expensive set-up fee, and not a whole lot of bandwidth, but they don't care who's pointing where with what... and they hand out statics like they're tic-tacs. $4 a pop after the first 2. This is compared to Bell's $45 for 5 and then you really start bleeding.

I touted the free public as a being a good choice because they were free, but you're right, that was a mistake. I went with them because I was juggling ISPs at the time and they allowed me total control of the DNS record without being tied to the ISP. As far as mydomain.com goes, its the first I've seen of a registrar providing DNS at a fair price.

I just looked at megapath's prices... I'm going to the bathroom now to staunch the blood coming from my eyes.

Cheers,

Finegan

Lay off the aspirin for awhile: it's a blood thinner, you know.

My other criteria is how considering what I had to go through to just get DSL in my neightborhood, I won't be switching anytime soon. Too much trouble!

Aha!

I live in one of those too, where the only DSL is iDSL, the vaguely repackaged ISDN from the early nineties; the 8-track tape of broadband. $90 a month for 128k or the cable company that has a monopoly on my apartment complex... $100 a month. That's including Basic-Extended (the minimum necessary to get a cable modem), which would insure that my roommate would be plastered to the couch for the remainder of the lease instead of out at... I don't know, work. Luckily I have kind neighbors who didn't mind the intrusion of a P1 133 Debian laptop on their LAN and on their kitchen counter... and the wireless card sticking out of it. Its hard to beat the price, $5 for one of the wired cards.

If I were given a choice between a Porsche or fiber to the door, I'm enough of a geek to not be ashamed in admitting that I'd be taking the bus.

Cheers,

Finegan

You guys are funny

You guys are funny

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Dang it I screwed up my Hosts files on my computers. I tried to bypass my stupid routers loopback problem so I can access my domain with 'www.mydomain.com' instead of having to use the LAN IP of the server from behind the router so I went and tried to put 192.168.0.40 mydomain.com in each host file and now I have problems

My windows Host file reads

127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.0.1 gateway.kaiser.com gateway
192.168.0.40 webserver.kaiser.com webserver

/etc/hosts reads

# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.0.1 gateway.kaiser.com gateway
192.168.0.40 webserver.kaiser.com webserver

Before I went to enter 192.168.0.40 mydomain.com I was able to enter 'gateway' in the browser and be propted to enter the Netgear router and when I would put 'webserver' in the browser I would get the indext.html page on my webserver

now after editing with what I was told (since tried to put it back) I can enter gateway and get the router but webserver just hangs and does nothing

Could it be the systax of the files changed. I know /etc/hosts has to be in unix form but what about \windows\hosts

Can someone help me here

I fixed it but something is screwy. I can now again type webserver and gateway and they both work. I also put '192.168.0.4 mydomain.com' and now I can type 'mydomain.com in the browser and that works also

The screwy part is this

etc/hosts

Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.0.1 gateway.kaiser.com gateway
192.168.0.4 webserver.kaiser.com webserver
192.168.0.4 www.pac10fans.com

\windows\host

127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.0.1 gateway.kaiser.com gateway
192.168.0.40 webserver.kaiser.com webserver
192.168.0.40 www.pac10fans.com

Notice one is .4 and the other is .40. I always thought I setup up the RedHat 7.2 to use 192.168.0.40 not .4

It works eventhough there are different IP's



Check this out also

[root@webserver etc]# ping webserver.kaiser.com
PING webserver.kaiser.com (192.168.0.4) from 192.168.0.40 : 56(84) bytes of data.
From 192.168.0.40: Destination Host Unreachable

I am doing all of this through SSH from the Win 98 SE computer that has an IP of 192.168.0.20 to the RH 7.2 computer

Look, I'm no expert. (Maybe Finegan's still lurking.) But, from what I've seen so far, Win seems to pay no attention wahtsoever to hosts.txt. (At least my Win doesn't...) How have you configured your Network Properties?

And on your Linux box, if your eth0 address isn't the same as your webserver address have you aliased your webserver with ifconfig or somesuch? (Or do you use multiple ethernet cards?)

Each computer has one NIC, also a Netgear

[root@webserver root]# ifconfig -a
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:07:95:54F:3B
inet addr:192.168.0.40 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0

What's your location for your RR connection. Cause down here in Austin they actually block port 80 so person's don't setup a webserver on a residential account, but I am sure some get away with it, like me, I have a regular ol account and for some reason I all of a sudden have a static IP, in which I shouldn't.. I'm not complaining though. I work for them and know these things.. not sure about the rest of the country though, but you might want to be careful when or if you call, if they don't allow it, yeah, they might just end that functionality you have now..

Trickykid!

Thank goodness man. I don't understand any of these home-router tricks. No he's cool with running a webserver... this all started about setting up his own domain instead of being a sub-domain of dyn.ca [one of those freebie coolio services], and his IP resolves externally. This was primarily about getting his own domain to resolve and setting up DNS, yadyadya... which I think is tackled. The last few were about internal LAN problems and having the router pull TCP/IP wrapper tricks to aim port 80, 22, and 25 traffic at the Linux box... and get mail to go in and out correctly, which I'm at a loss to pull off unless the Linux box has the static hooked up to it.

Tag,

Finegan

Also, Kaiser... sorry I had a binge nap lasting about 22 hours and my mailserver went down so I couldn't get follow-ups. Tough weekend.