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Old 07-31-2023, 04:31 AM   #1
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problem installing LM on a certain computer


Hello

I'm trying to install Linux Mint on a second computer we have here but without the succes of the first one!
This computer had windows seven on it, just to know
When I try to install I'm using a usb key with Mint 19.2 on it
when finished I'm loading updates, including nvidia drivers and a boot-repair to fix windows/linux boot
Then i do have a double systme on boot, one is labelled 415.0.213 and the other is 415.0.54

Both of these are unworking, when started the desktop is frozen
screen is here showing high resolution

The only way to go is to start with recovery mode
then my screen is showing low res

On french linux mint forum they said "Tina is not supported" with no explanation
I'm ok to go to new one but not until i find answer to this problem :/

thanx for tips
 
Old 08-01-2023, 03:17 AM   #2
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ok, you can erase this, i'm abandoning this eleitsist thing, my brain is only human, sorry
good luck
 
Old 08-01-2023, 05:43 AM   #3
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Linux Mint 19.2 support ended in April, 2023 so you would need a newer version. This means that the repositories have moved and standard updates will not work. The repositories are archived at a different location. This must be a fairly old machine if it has windows 7 on it. Windows 7 used Legacy/CSM install rather than the newer UEFI so if you download and write another newer Mint to your USB and try to install, make certain that you select the Legacy option in the BIOS rather than UEFI. You may have 2 entries showing to boot the USB, do not select UEFI.

If you used boot repair, you could run it again and select the Create BootInfo Summary option and post the link here as it would give details on your systems.

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Old 08-02-2023, 02:09 AM   #4
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Thanx for help, I have succeed installing a stable version by recovery, then updating to the door of 20.0 (can't remember, 19.x)
for this last step i failed to understand instruction and there's too much "beware" for this feels safe to me
i don't know whats UEFI thing is, I did build a USB onto windows (you can believe it, that was a XP) because another Linux failed doing this properly (but it did it fast ^^) with any mint i found (19.2)

now, i am looking for a tool which i'm not modifying every now & then, i need to work with a computer, not to spend my time working on it

and after windows i really don't want any windows

so this linux mint is maybe not the good move ? is there a stable systeme ? Few months really ? are we looking for a total weather disaster ? quicker ? that's crazy oO
 
Old 08-02-2023, 03:45 AM   #5
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You can download different Desktop versions of Linux Mint at the link below. It has a link at the top of the page with Installation Instructions. Read that first.

https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php

You should check the link below for minimum system requirements for the latest Mint.

https://linuxconfig.org/linux-mint-system-requirements

Linux Mint is one of the most popular Linux distributions for new users. You need to compare the hardware requirements with the hardware on your computer. If you don't know what UEFI is, you should do an online search as all computers are going to be using it within a few years. Go into your BIOS firmware on the computer and look for any reference to UEFI or EFI. If you don't see anything, then it is not capable of a UEFI install.

Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu and it has LTS (long term support) versions which are best to install as you get updates for 5 years as opposed to 9 months for other versions. Linux Mint 20 will have support until April, 2024 and Mint and Mint 21 will be supported until April, 2027.

Be sure to check the hardware requirements and read the instructions at the link above.
 
Old 08-02-2023, 07:19 AM   #6
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i have tried yet, downloading 21, trying to put on a usb stick with rufus and it failed
it say "this part of grub is wrong we will download another one" or something like that & same for another thing, but the downloading is not going
this was with windows, i will try with linux

the install of 19.2 & 19.3 is ok, after all updates the system seems safe, no need of recovery mode
i guess different linux at grub are old system before updates, that's a bit boring but i'll try to manage grub interface
(well yes, i put windows on first boot but it's doing that, windows is lined after all linux versions, i need to be on front of the computer all the time)

windows system information is showing bios & mbios, no uefi
 
Old 08-02-2023, 08:10 AM   #7
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so i suceed making the usb, but 21 don't want to install, no UEFI/EFI

thankfully 19.3 seems ok, still suspicious but ok
 
Old 08-03-2023, 06:30 AM   #8
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The Mint 19 versions ended support in April of this year so I'm not sure how you did updates as the repositories for the software were moved. If you are still interested in resolving this problem, then run boot repair again as I suggested earlier and select the Create BootInfo Summary option and post the link you are given when it finishes.
 
Old 08-04-2023, 01:49 AM   #9
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well, you're not sure how but i did =)
system is stable but now (from 19.2 to 19.3) i've lost thunderbird profiles (old is default, new is default release)
and i'm unable to install 20 or 21 because my computer is not modern enough

i will do what you ask later today but i see no issue to this except having money for new computer printer scanner and all of that super fragile & shortlives hightech material (sorry i'm tired of PC things)
 
Old 08-04-2023, 03:01 AM   #10
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just a remark, about system requirement:

4 GB of RAM
100 GB of hard drive space
64 bit CPU (single core) with 2 GHz speed or better
1440 x 900 resolution or higher
High definition graphics card and monitor
High speed internet connection

this is a bit like "having a computer that old" and it is really not true
modern computer have 8GB, portable ones, while desktop are 16GB
core is standard 4 nowadays, single is from XXth century

this system requirement is absolutely ususeful and it is far better than the official mint requirement

2GB RAM (4GB recommended for a comfortable usage).
20GB of disk space (100GB recommended).
1024×768 resolution (on lower resolutions, press ALT to drag windows with the mouse if they don’t fit in the screen).

totally untrue or at leaast completely missing details
 
Old 08-04-2023, 04:55 AM   #11
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The link I posted earlier was 'recommended' system requirements rather than minimum which are what you posted and show at the Mint site at the link below.

https://linuxmint.com/faq.php
 
Old 08-05-2023, 02:25 AM   #12
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1440 resolution means high graphic card with 8 or 16Gb RAM, associated motherboard are 12g RAM
so that would means you need a slow computer with high res material, its not consistent
this is one of the main linux distros argument, having it possible on slow computer, this is true for basic linux system not for "windows like" distros, even less with hightech graphics (which i see no interest since gaming is impossible)

the one requirement by linuxmint website is a crime ^^

joke aside linux mint is a very modern approach, focus on "what's next" more than trying to get a stable tool, which is what's missing professionaly, what we need for graphic job - not even talking of this "modern company workers" approach about security
i would do anything for being able to use 10 years old GIMP instead of the new version, wonder why noone care for stable tools and go for whatever innovation since it is innovation

well, just to say, this is a paradoxal speech done by LM
 
Old 08-05-2023, 03:13 AM   #13
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Mint, like a number of other major Linux distributions, has a focus on graphical things so if you are more interested in a system which will run on an older machine without the fancy graphics, you might try AntiX or MX Linux.
 
Old 08-07-2023, 04:44 AM   #14
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that! that is a very good idea! you're right, i dislike windows ressource-wasting so why having a windows-like distro?
i'm downloading MX right now, thanx!
 
Old 08-08-2023, 09:29 AM   #15
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Hello

I'm trying to install Linux Mint on a second computer we have here but without the succes of the first one!
This computer had windows seven on it, just to know
When I try to install I'm using a usb key with Mint 19.2 on it
when finished I'm loading updates, including nvidia drivers and a boot-repair to fix windows/linux boot
Then i do have a double systme on boot, one is labelled 415.0.213 and the other is 415.0.54

Both of these are unworking, when started the desktop is frozen
screen is here showing high resolution

The only way to go is to start with recovery mode
then my screen is showing low res

On french linux mint forum they said "Tina is not supported" with no explanation
I'm ok to go to new one but not until i find answer to this problem :/

thanx for tips
To the OP, your User ID speaks volumes! Truth be told, many years ago, I WAS where you ARE! I abhorred the "pay as you go" and "figure it out for yourself" approach of the Bill Gates and Tim Cook empires!

Many years ago, I met a business consultant who introduced me to Linux Mint. Well, long story short, I was converted - and I have NEVER looked back!

My suggestion to you is this:

Keep it simple.

First, save your personal documents and files to an external thumb drive or HDD.

Second, download/copy Rescuezilla 2.3.2 (Focal) to an external drive, then boot Rescuezilla to format your computer's hard drive in EXT4.

Third, insert disk with the Linux Mint OS and install.

Fourth, copy saved, personal files to My Documents folder.

Fifth, enjoy your new OS!

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