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Old 01-17-2019, 06:18 AM   #1
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LM Cinnamon 19.1 live cd boots, but the live session desktop displays NO icons ( installer)


"When you boot the computer from the USB stick (or DVD), Linux Mint starts a live session. It logs you in automatically as a user called mint and shows you a desktop with the installer on it.
To permanently install Linux Mint on your computer: Double-click Install Linux Mint."

Mine boots from a DVD burned from this version's ISO image. Eventually it does display a desktop with the grey/black wavy forms and the green/white LM logo, but not the 3 icons, one of which should be the installer button.

I have unsuccessfully tried different UEFI and UEFI + Legacy settings in BIOS to permanently install both LM 19.and 19.1x64.

What am I doing wrong? How do I proceed to install this thing?

Many thanks in advance!
 
Old 01-17-2019, 06:49 AM   #2
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Does it display the desktop panel? You should get a menu on boot, or be able to get a menu from the desktop panel depending upon how for along in load you are). I have not installed the latest versions, but while not in your face the option should not be hidden either.
 
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:16 AM   #3
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"it does display a desktop with the grey/black wavy forms and the green/white LM logo" - this would be what you call "the desktop panel", correct?

This is what should be displayed:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is...&bih=931&dpr=1

that is, including the 3 upper left icons in these images, one of them being the install button. Mine does not show those.

"You should get a menu on boot, or be able to get a menu from the desktop panel depending upon how for along in load you are."

--I have gone through all that a dozen times, but I eventually end up with a live Mint session desktop panel that displays no option to "permanently install Linux Mint" icon.

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Old 01-17-2019, 07:24 AM   #4
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yes, but it can be found in the menu as well. if for whatever reason it did not load. if you got a rewrite DVD I'd clean it and rewrite it at a slower speed. maybe even get a fresh ios to use.

or find it in the menu, install it, and see if it ends up screwy or not.

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Old 01-17-2019, 07:35 AM   #5
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What menu would that be? How do I open it when there are NO icons? I do not see an "install" option in the context menu or anything else I have tried.
 
Old 01-17-2019, 07:44 AM   #6
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What menu would that be? How do I open it when there are NO icons? I do not see an "install" option in the context menu or anything else I have tried.
no menu even, sorry missed that part. I'd do a reburn of the iso or get a new iso then create a new install medium. I do not use DVDs but yeah, make sure your disk and heads are clean, then reburn it at a slower speed.

the panel he speaks of is the black bar that should be on the bottom with four icons, show desktop, firefox, terminal, and files, far left on the panel is the menu icon. On the right side of the bar is the system tray with all of the other stuff.

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Old 01-17-2019, 09:18 AM   #7
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Just finished a re-burn, speed 8x, with the same result. What puzzles me is, that the ISO download's checksum was verified and the written DVD data also, so I do not suspect a bad download or a burn error. But again - no icons and no way to access the main menu that I could find.
Thanks for explaining about what the panel is, I completely forgot the term for that.

I am going to test the Live DVD on my rarely used Windows system, will see.

In the meantime, thank you all for your kind help, I will report back.

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Old 01-17-2019, 12:41 PM   #8
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Update:

The same live dvd has worked just fine on my standby Dell Optiplex 3800, ie it booted all the way to the point of displaying the icons, the menu and the panel.
I did not actually run the install; there was no reason to. So what made the difference? Different BIOS boot parameters/settings? Hardware?
Does the process actually freeze before it can load the icons on the intended machine?
 
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I do find that both interesting, and puzzling. Is it the same dvd reader. it maybe dirty head so it is not reading it so it can pick up every little bit of data it needs. that is the only think I can think of, if you cannot swap out your reader that works on your other system, maybe try creating a usb stick and trying that next.
 
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:52 PM   #10
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Hm, yes - the same Asus burner which has never failed me before. I have actually burned 2 DVDs of this LM 19.1 ISO and 1 copy of 19. All 3 produce identical unusable result on my main machine. I do believe the process freezes due to some hardware handling quirk.
Thanks for the suggestion of hardware swap, but at this point it would be easier for me to take the usb stick option.
Thank you kindly for your concern, maybe we can soon get to the bottom of this.

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Old 01-17-2019, 03:15 PM   #11
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perhaps, but it's all up to you now.
 
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:06 PM   #12
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"perhaps, but it's all up to you now."
Yes, thank you.

I hope to get more ideas/inspiration from someone, because the USB stick option fails on the alpha machine as well = same result as with the DVD, but works fine again on the standby PC.
My limited knowledge of these things steers me toward the primitive gut feeling (lol) that this is a matter of NOT hardware differences between the two counter-resolving desktops but rather
of some settings, like in BIOS or something. What do I know? That's what it feels like. I don't even care about what and why technically. I just wish to have this distro on my main box after enjoying
Linux Mint for the last - what-5 yrs after sending Windows to hell?
So I wonder - does anyone care to suggest what I should try next? WTF? It was a breeze installing LM 17 (used ti this day) this exact way on this very exact machine!
 
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Try busting a rhythm on it with a different distro even if it's to see if you're getting the same results.
 
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:52 PM   #14
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Forgive me, I have no idea what "busting a rhythm on it" means. If you have paid attention, I did try LM 19 version, as I wrote. Is that what you mean?
 
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Forgive me, I have no idea what "busting a rhythm on it" means. If you have paid attention, I did try LM 19 version, as I wrote. Is that what you mean?
yes, it was a very loose metaphor.

get away from mint, try something completely different.
what exactly are you trying to put it on anyways?
 
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