LinuxQuestions.org
Share your knowledge at the LQ Wiki.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Hardware
User Name
Password
Linux - Hardware This forum is for Hardware issues.
Having trouble installing a piece of hardware? Want to know if that peripheral is compatible with Linux?

Notices

View Poll Results: Would you punt at an online linux hardware shop ?
Yes definitely 8 47.06%
Yes but probably would end up buying at my regular 3 17.65%
No, why ? 3 17.65%
No, unless exceptionally cheap and high performance. 3 17.65%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Search this Thread
Old 03-14-2005, 02:08 PM   #1
dukeinlondon
Member
 
Registered: May 2003
Location: London
Distribution: kubuntu 8.10
Posts: 593
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 30
Question would you use a linux only shop ?


If one (or some) of the big linux vendors where setting up an online hardware shop (selling of course hardware with linux support), would that be your first stop when looking for new gear ? or would you still go hunting for lower price/higher features with no guarantee ?
 
Old 03-14-2005, 02:15 PM   #2
jailbait
Guru
 
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Blue Ridge Mountain
Distribution: Debian Wheezy, SolydK 2013
Posts: 7,434

Rep: Reputation: 134Reputation: 134
"If one (or some) of the big linux vendors where setting up an online hardware shop (selling of course hardware with linux support), would that be your first stop when looking for new gear ? or would you still go hunting for lower price/higher features with no guarantee ?"

Yes, I would use such a shop. I have had enough experience finding hardware which is supported by Linux that I would not be completely dependent on the shop's guarentee. In other words I would still shop in stores which make no guarentees about Linux support.

-----------------------
Steve Stites
 
Old 03-14-2005, 02:28 PM   #3
rpz
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 126

Rep: Reputation: 15
Yes, I would definitely be willing to pay a little extra for hardware that is guaranteed to work in linux. Countless hours of hacking would be saved there.
For such a store to survive, I guess they would have to focus on the support part, where they provide drivers for all major distributions and feedback to the developers and manufacturers (especially ATI). Also, they should have a store somewhere in the EU too so europeans don't have to pay expensive customs fees.
Oh, and by "pay a little extra" I mean LITTLE. No specialized business to business-type stores where everything is ridiculously expensive (take Dell's or Apple's computer accessory stores as examples - who pays like 200 for a 40 gb harddrive??).
 
Old 03-14-2005, 02:56 PM   #4
{BBI}Nexus{BBI}
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Nottingham, UK
Distribution: Mageia 3 / CrunchBang Linux 10 Statler / Easy Peasy
Posts: 4,293

Rep: Reputation: 205Reputation: 205Reputation: 205
The Devils home yes, I would gladly give my custom to any shop that offered Linux Support Online or Eyeline for that matter :-D
 
Old 03-14-2005, 04:33 PM   #5
buffed317
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: New Jersey, USA
Distribution: Slackware 11
Posts: 191

Rep: Reputation: 31
if it was a few more dollars than normal i wouldnt mind. most things work without trouble in linux though. the stuff i added to my comp (externel hd,pcmcia card, printer, usb drive) worked without a problem. i havent been able to figure out how to install my wireless card (although i heard to can be done) and scanner.
 
Old 03-15-2005, 03:33 AM   #6
Ekkume
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Finland
Distribution: Debian Sid, FreeBSD, Mandrake, Red Hat
Posts: 84

Rep: Reputation: 15
Re: would you use a linux only shop ?

Quote:
Originally posted by dukeinlondon
If one (or some) of the big linux vendors where setting up an online hardware shop (selling of course hardware with linux support), would that be your first stop when looking for new gear ? or would you still go hunting for lower price/higher features with no guarantee ?

Definitely. Nowadays, I always check for Linux compatibility before buying hardware anyway, and I do often end up paying a bit more. I switched over to Linux about 6 months ago, and I have expensive hardwear sitting on my shelf collecting dust that I can't use and manufacturers that can't even be bothered to answer my e-mail enquiries. Such as ADSTech and their USB2 product Instant DVD+DV. 180$ - kerflush. Stay away from ADSTech. They don't give a hoot about the millions (and growing) of open source users. They won't get any more of my money until they change their ways.

Next time I buy a laptop, I am going to research the compatibility thoroughly first. I want to know that the graphics hw works, as well as the firewire port, and so on.

I would also like to see someone set up a website, where you can download config files for different kernels for different laptops, which will build exactly the right kind of kernel for that laptop. Perhaps I might do something like this.
 
Old 03-15-2005, 05:45 AM   #7
dukeinlondon
Member
 
Registered: May 2003
Location: London
Distribution: kubuntu 8.10
Posts: 593
Blog Entries: 1

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
I've written to the mandrakestore, since they have been trying to flesh out some hardware deals in the recent past. They probably have not realised that a lot of people would like a usable webcam, wireless nic and other....
 
Old 03-15-2005, 09:44 AM   #8
APB_4
Member
 
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: England
Distribution: Ubuntu 9.04; Crunchee; EEE Xandros
Posts: 289

Rep: Reputation: 30
I certainly would as long as it's not too much more expensive. The only problem I can see is if they are definitely all compatible all you have to do is find out where they sell it cheaper. It would certainly save a lot of hassle checking that everything is compatible.
 
Old 03-15-2005, 09:50 AM   #9
dukeinlondon
Member
 
Registered: May 2003
Location: London
Distribution: kubuntu 8.10
Posts: 593
Blog Entries: 1

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
You are probably right but the Applestore coexists with a lot of online and high street resellers. They could circumvent the problem by providing tested instruction on how to do the install, even install scripts...
 
Old 03-15-2005, 09:50 AM   #10
APB_4
Member
 
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: England
Distribution: Ubuntu 9.04; Crunchee; EEE Xandros
Posts: 289

Rep: Reputation: 30
Quote:
I would also like to see someone set up a website, where you can download config files for different kernels for different laptops, which will build exactly the right kind of kernel for that laptop. Perhaps I might do something like this.
How about a program that scans all your hardware and asks you a few questions and then sets up a config file. I would definitely be interested in helping out with a project like this. If no-one wants to start it I will probably set up a sourceforge project around June. If anyone is interested you can email me at apb_4 [at] users [dot] sourceforge [dot]net
 
Old 03-15-2005, 09:52 AM   #11
dukeinlondon
Member
 
Registered: May 2003
Location: London
Distribution: kubuntu 8.10
Posts: 593
Blog Entries: 1

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
It's a lot like hwdetect that's used in some live distros no ?
 
Old 03-15-2005, 10:06 AM   #12
APB_4
Member
 
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: England
Distribution: Ubuntu 9.04; Crunchee; EEE Xandros
Posts: 289

Rep: Reputation: 30
Kind of but it won't compile a kernel for your system. The idea of this would be for kernel optimization so it's pretty much out of the question for live distros
 
Old 03-15-2005, 10:28 AM   #13
dukeinlondon
Member
 
Registered: May 2003
Location: London
Distribution: kubuntu 8.10
Posts: 593
Blog Entries: 1

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
Got you.... Nowadays, everything is pretty much the other way round...
 
Old 03-15-2005, 10:50 AM   #14
reddazz
Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: N. E. England
Distribution: Fedora, CentOS, Debian
Posts: 16,298

Rep: Reputation: 73
I would certainly use it because at least you'll buy your hardware with the knowledge that its going to work.
 
Old 03-15-2005, 11:51 AM   #15
Ekkume
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Finland
Distribution: Debian Sid, FreeBSD, Mandrake, Red Hat
Posts: 84

Rep: Reputation: 15
Hardware detector / kernel config file generator

Quote:
Originally posted by APB_4
How about a program that scans all your hardware and asks you a few questions and then sets up a config file. I would definitely be interested in helping out with a project like this. If no-one wants to start it I will probably set up a sourceforge project around June. If anyone is interested you can email me at apb_4 [at] users [dot] sourceforge [dot]net

I find that the Gentoo hardware detector is quite good. Perhaps something can be built from it. I would be interested. I have two laptops to try it on and can get more through friends. It is especially good to get the right configuration on a laptop.

One needs to take into consideration all the things that the user will want to use with the computer, like PCMCIA cards, and then what kernel to use. It will be a project that needs updating with each kernel release that comes out.

I have Debian Sid with 2.6.8 which doesn't work with the computer's APM. I tried compiling a kernel and got it working, but PCMCIA stopped working. Next time I have that much time, I will try with the Knoppix config file.

Sure, I would be interested in getting involved in a project like this. I will e-mail you.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is there a Paint Shop Pro for Linux OldSarge Linux - Software 35 12-12-2007 12:14 PM
Wow, the coffee shop I frequent switches to Linux jaz General 9 11-19-2005 07:04 PM
Groupware for a IT shop kemplej Linux - Software 3 09-01-2005 07:23 AM
Thinking of starting linux games shop hylke General 10 02-06-2005 12:55 PM
Setting up Shop Boffy General 1 04-12-2004 03:07 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:30 PM.

Main Menu
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
identi.ca: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration