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Old 02-06-2005, 04:25 PM   #1
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Suse 9.2 and AC97 sound


Chello all, here is sad situation:

I upgraded from suse 9.0 -> 9.2
now I have no sound.
Motherboard PcChips M851G
Amd sempron 1800

I have done alot of reading online and have found no solution for this problem

alsa installed
alsa regognizes chipset as AC97
no test sound heard at end of alsaconf
alsa mixer unmuted and volume upped
I will give $1,000,000,000,000 to the person who can fix my problem
 
Old 02-06-2005, 06:23 PM   #2
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What does

/sbin/lspci -v, and

/sbin/lsmod say about the card?
good luck.
 
Old 02-06-2005, 07:34 PM   #3
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No help I'm afraid as am in same boat. Same OS. Is this a thing with Suse 9.2?

Donjcook, sorry to hijack thread but hope there may be some common factors here that could be of use.

Alsaconf runs but doesn't give any audible sound.

Alsamixer - Nothing muted, BUT noticed no Master volume level.
The control is there but cannot increase volume from 0.
Checked /etc/asound.state and lo the control value true is there for it but no volume level section

My lspci as below:
Code:
0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound Controller (rev a0) 
        Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation: Unknown device 4961
         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
         I/O ports at dc00
         I/O ports at d800 [size=128]
         Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2
lsmod | grep snd gives:
Code:
snd_seq                48144  1
snd_seq_device          8716  1 snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            50472  0
snd_mixer_oss          17920  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_intel8x0           31452  0
snd_ac97_codec         69752  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm                84872  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              23428  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    52452  9 snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
snd_page_alloc          9864  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
soundcore               9056  1 snd
I cant quite run to $1,000,000,000,000 but would be eternally grateful if any help could be given.
Strangest thing is I've another system set up almost identically except for being a Duron instead of an Athlon that positively refuses to break anything.

Last edited by prj; 02-06-2005 at 07:35 PM.
 
Old 02-07-2005, 09:39 AM   #4
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Thanks for the replys!

More info for you to consider: I did a fresh install of Suse 9.2 and came up with same results. Recognise the chipse t , alsa config , alsamix, no sound. So its not an upgrade issue. Here is my lsmod, note I tried loading another driver in desperation, the driver that alsa likes starts with snd_ .

linux:/home/don # lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_pcm_oss 57896 0
snd_mixer_oss 19200 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_via82xx 26276 0
snd_ac97_codec 69728 1 snd_via82xx
snd_pcm 96776 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 24708 1 snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 7552 1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi 24356 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 8716 1 snd_rawmidi
snd 60164 9 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,s nd_seq_device
via82cxxx_audio 27400 0
uart401 11332 1 via82cxxx_audio
sound 76204 2 via82cxxx_audio,uart401
ac97_codec 17420 1 via82cxxx_audio
via 60832 0
snd_page_alloc 10248 2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
gameport 4608 1 snd_via82xx
soundcore 9056 3 snd,via82cxxx_audio,sound
nvidia 4815052 12
usbserial 26856 0
parport_pc 37824 1
lp 10536 0
parport 37960 2 parport_pc,lp
nvram 8328 0
usblp 12032 0
thermal 17928 0
processor 25640 1 thermal
fan 5380 0
button 8464 0
battery 11396 0
ac 6404 0
af_packet 20872 2
ds 17796 0
yenta_socket 19840 0
pcmcia_core 66100 2 ds,yenta_socket
videodev 9344 0
ndiswrapper 90640 0
ipv6 237312 13
binfmt_misc 11272 1
edd 10012 0
subfs 7552 2



here is my lspci:

nux:/home/don # lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [KM400/A] Chipset Host Bridge
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
0000:00:09.0 Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)
0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
0000:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev74)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)


here is the best FAQ I've found , but it has so many quirky posts I dont know what to make of it ;-)

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc...module=via82xx

(what a long url ! )

regards,
Don

prj , what mainboard are you using?
 
Old 02-07-2005, 09:42 AM   #5
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I noticed that prj is having the same problem with a different chipset so it looks more like a configuration error?

THanks for da help
Don
 
Old 02-07-2005, 11:23 AM   #6
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I am also having the same issue on my M7VIP board with A97 sound. Except my symptoms differ slightly. Alsaconf goes nicely but with no audible test sound... difference: instead main volume is adjustable in alsamixer but no PCM adjustment can be made from 0. Hope someone knows, this is diving me crazy!!

I also just purchased a replacement card a Thundersound 4.1 cheapo card from Frys to solve the problem, and there are no driver modules that are assigned to this card. Harddrake does not categorize it as a sound device. I have also compiled a few kernel versions to try and solve the issue... I just can't seem to win....
 
Old 02-07-2005, 12:03 PM   #7
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OK , so we now have 3 people with similar problem. We all run alsaconf, it recognizes our sound
chips, but at the end -- no sound when it plays the test sound, right?
We all have unmuted our options in alsamixer and raised volume up as far as we can, still
no sound right? we are all running Suse 9.2 , is this a suse issue?

I hope someone out there has some insight for us. Im stumped at this point .. but will keep trying

Cheers!

Don
 
Old 02-07-2005, 12:14 PM   #8
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3 differences in my situation:
1) I am using Mandrake 10.1 Official Download.
2) I am UNABLE to adjust PCM volume
3) I am ABLE to adjust main volume.

Also, please note I do not hear any feedback when I plug in my speakers to the speaker output channel on the sound card. Leading me to believe there is no power going to this output. Whether this helps or not.. I do not know. All that I do know is that in volume related issues, I typically still hear a small amount of feedback...

Perhaps it is not exclusively an SUSE issue.... (?)
 
Old 02-07-2005, 12:37 PM   #9
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More info to ponder, my machine is dual boot, and the sound chip works
perfect in windows 98. ( irritating ) but it tells me that all cables and speakers etc
are functioning OK . Windows reports it on IRQ 5 btw.

Is your machine dual boot ?

Don
 
Old 02-07-2005, 01:14 PM   #10
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Nope, all Mandrake linux. The dual boot should have no impact on how the software is invoked. Well, that is unless your are using a differing file system, etc. Then mount points could be different. Not really sure on that one.
 
Old 02-07-2005, 01:20 PM   #11
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heres a link

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=243137

hope it helps
 
Old 02-07-2005, 05:06 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by donjcook
Thanks for the replys!

More info for you to consider: I did a fresh install of Suse 9.2 and came up with same results. Recognise the chipse t , alsa config , alsamix, no sound. So its not an upgrade issue. Here is my lsmod, note I tried loading another driver in desperation, the driver that alsa likes starts with snd_ .

linux:/home/don # lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_pcm_oss 57896 0
snd_mixer_oss 19200 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_via82xx 26276 0
snd_ac97_codec 69728 1 snd_via82xx
snd_pcm 96776 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 24708 1 snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 7552 1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi 24356 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 8716 1 snd_rawmidi
snd 60164 9 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,s nd_seq_device
via82cxxx_audio 27400 0
uart401 11332 1 via82cxxx_audio
sound 76204 2 via82cxxx_audio,uart401
ac97_codec 17420 1 via82cxxx_audio
via 60832 0
snd_page_alloc 10248 2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
gameport 4608 1 snd_via82xx
soundcore 9056 3 snd,via82cxxx_audio,sound
nvidia 4815052 12
usbserial 26856 0
parport_pc 37824 1
lp 10536 0
parport 37960 2 parport_pc,lp
nvram 8328 0
usblp 12032 0
thermal 17928 0
processor 25640 1 thermal
fan 5380 0
button 8464 0
battery 11396 0
ac 6404 0
af_packet 20872 2
ds 17796 0
yenta_socket 19840 0
pcmcia_core 66100 2 ds,yenta_socket
videodev 9344 0
ndiswrapper 90640 0
ipv6 237312 13
binfmt_misc 11272 1
edd 10012 0
subfs 7552 2



here is my lspci:

nux:/home/don # lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [KM400/A] Chipset Host Bridge
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
0000:00:09.0 Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)
0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
0000:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev74)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)


here is the best FAQ I've found , but it has so many quirky posts I dont know what to make of it ;-)

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc...module=via82xx

(what a long url ! )

regards,
Don

prj , what mainboard are you using?
This may be a module conflict. It appears you have the oss modules loaded as well as the alsa modules. You'll need to use one or the other. Try removing the ones you don't wish to use.
good luck.
 
Old 02-07-2005, 08:40 PM   #13
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Quote:
prj , what mainboard are you using?
ASRock K7S8XE.

Given up now. I,ve unloaded everything and reinstalled, re-compiled latest Alsa etc etc.

Still getting no Master Volume Level, even after copying files across from other machine.
Maybe it's dropped off inside the case somewhere

Bed now - dissertation due at end of week
 
Old 02-08-2005, 03:41 PM   #14
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Still no luck on my end either.

I am using a M7VIP Biostar board (on the PC with the issue). Anyone else with some tips? It looks like it is just could be just a volume adjustment, but my problem is I cannot adjust the PCM volume. Is it normal for some cards not to have this ability? Curious as to what PCM is as a acronym for anyhow...?
 
Old 02-08-2005, 05:18 PM   #15
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To prj, if you'll post the entire contents of lsmod, maybe it will give some insight.


To elyk1212, you should post the same info that has been requested of the first user.

To both of you.
good luck.
 
  


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