Poor as Piss is still used today around here

Any luck yet John, or still no chance? Just checkin back.

Cool

I find this thread fasinating too

Good read

BTW when you play a CD by hitting the play button on the CD-ROM Im pretty sure its totally hardware related...

The sound comes out of the back of the CD-ROM drive it goes straight down that audio cable you plugged in the back of the drive and into the sound card and the straight out to the speakers. I was pretty surprised when I setup my new PC the other week and had no sound drivers installed and hit the play button and got music. SO, I assume thats how it all works.

BTW BigJohn have no fear Ive been struggling with Linux for 2 weeks now. Just installed it - I picked Redhat 7.3. I think Ive reinstalled that one 3 times and Mandrake 8.2 2 times I like them both... Ive settled with Redhat for the moment tho. There is no difference really as deep down in the inards they are all based on the same programs. I think Mandrake is definatly the NEWBIE way to go It picked up all my Drives automatically!!

Anyway you have to do a lot of with this beast and it looks like you are going well so far. Im a Network Admin in my day job and been playing with PCs ever since I had an Apple IIe when I was 13, hehe thats almost 20 years wowo. AND Linux has had me stumped quite a lot Had troubles getting the video drivers installed and working and now Im in the same boat as you with getting the sound working with my onboard AC97 sound chip. BUT I too will perciver!!

Anyway enough drivel from me... lets see how your adventure continues. AND BTW find out what all the configuration files are and back them up as you go so if you F*ck it you can just copy the old one back

Ok admedic,

As you can see from the posts the MasterC has been helping me loads to try and suss this snag with my onboard AC97, but my main problem is that I am not really getting much time to do much digging around at the moment. Also as I have been basically an exceptionally lazy window$ drone since I started with computers I am really struggling to get to grips with this mandrake/linux thing.

I am really greatful to MasterC as I've got more help from him than I have managed to get out of my brother who would know where you're coming from,as he is on faculty at sussex (not lecturering - technical side) and is a red hat freak. But also perennially busy.

Anyhow, I digress, I had sort of worked out that the sound coming from the cdrom/cdrw combo was probably playing straight from drive via chip to the speakers. And although I can see the i810 module loading up at boot (if I can be bothered to watch the boot up dialogue), the mandrake doesn't seem to be seeing the device. When I look in the configuration thingy (harddrake I think), I get a listing of loads of "unknown" intel devices, though when I look at their profiles? nothing seems to identify itself as the sound chip (I seem to think that it is one of these intel multi function chips that mainly does something else but also does the AC97 sound as well).

This gives me the problem of when I can sus out which chip does what, how do I tell the system to use it to generate the sound.

MasterC said to try and play am MP3, but as I'm not into MP3's, I don't have any on my harddrive to try and play. In truth, so much of this is totally over my head, all I am really able to do is to try other peoples suggestions on a "hit and miss" basis (but the forums don't seem to have a membership definition of F***wit, so I have to make do with member even though that is a big over statement).

Perhaps you should read the "How do I............" thread to try and follow my level of IT impotence. Because it highlights a few other things that I'm trying to get my head round.

I will post back when I have tried some of the things that MasterC has suggested.


for chad


(like a) Lead Fart . A description for something that has not been well received; similar to "like a fart in a spacesuit" or "pork chop in a synagogue"

regards

John

alias usb-interface usb-uhci
alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio
alias char-major-116 snd
options snd snd major=116 snd_cards_limit=1
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-intel8x0
probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
alias tty-ldisc-13 n_hdlc
alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate

This is what my "etc/modules.conf" looks like - is that right.

[root@localhost bigjohn]# modprobe i810_audio
[root@localhost bigjohn]#

is what i get next! I know that as far as linux is concerned, no news is good news, but what the modprobe command does, god only knows.

So I do dmesg and the bit that seems to mention the AC97 bit is as follows

This Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.21, 03:22:49 Mar 15 2002
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:1f.5
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1f.3
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:1f.5 to 64
i810: Intel ICH2 found at IO 0xe000 and 0xdc00, IRQ 11
i810_audio: Audio Controller supports 6 channels.
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x414c:0x4710 (ALC200/200P)
i810_audio: AC'97 codec 0 supports AMAP, total channels = 2

Also, now I can't find where the f*****g alsa driver has gone so I can't try that.





STOP PRESS STOP PRESS STOP PRESS

Now I am really stumped, As you can see from the above, I was running through all the various things that I have tried after receiving Chads' (+ronin24, webtoe and a few others) advice, and getting no where.

I haven't changed anything (I'm to nervous of absolutley screwing the linux/mandrake - again) and suddenly after 4739 times of trying, I put a cd (Led Zeppelin - Early days) into the drive and the bastard thing has only gone and kicked in with the CD player facility.

I can change tracks, the sound levels etc (hold on, I'm just gonna forward it to track 10 - Rock and Roll, one of my Fav's - along with the ubiquitous "Stairway")

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh yeah,

there's nowt like a bit of Zep to make you jiz yer trousers (excluding sex of course)

For Chad:

Sippers, Gulpers and Sandy Bottoms. These phrases are directly linked to the days of the Tot . If your "oppo" did you a little favour, you might repay the favour with "sippers" of your tot, if the favour was medium sized, then the repayment would have been "gulpers" and logically, if he had really "saved your bacon", he would get "sandy bottoms" leaving your mug empty. Though, I should point out that these phrases are still in common useage within the Royal Navy, i.e. if a friend of yours was thirsty, you might offer him (or her these days) "sippers" of your can of coke or whatever, or if you have nearly finished it, you might just pass the can and say "sandy bottoms". You could also ask a friend for a drink of the "coke" i.e. "sippers shippers".

When Clare gets back from shopping this evening, I will be having a few tots for everyone who has helped out. Its a shame that you can't e-mail rum around isn't it otherwise we could all get drunk together.

regards

John

p.s. Oh and while I remember Chad, is there a hospital facility at the base on Puerto Rico that you could get a draft too? cos talking about the rum, I recall buying some absolutley delicious Puero Rican "Bacardi Black". Memory says that it is so sweet, you don't need to mix it with coke, just put the bottle in the freezer for a while and down it straight.

SO it's fixed then eh?!

Yes, there is a facility there, and actually yes, it's one that is available. Sounds very good, I am wondering if I could find it somewhere in the states here.

Cool then John, hope your sound works like it sounds like it does, that would be great.

Well Chad,

As I said in my previous post, I am still stumped as to how it works now, when previously it didn't.

You may have noticed that I am quite "picky" with my spelling and punctuation. I am very aware that incorrect punctuation and sometimes spelling can convey very different inference, particulaly with the "written word".

I suppose that might make me a bit paranoid that I don't want to give the wrong impression to anyone who may be reading my "ramblings".

The one thing about linux (mandrake or any of the other distro's) that I did hoist in, was the one about the potential for error from making a "typo" when using command line input. I am convinced that I didn't do something as pathetic as that, And for the main part I have tried your suggestions more than once (paying particular attention to what you have said and how you have demonstrated command line syntax).

I can only presume that I MUST have made a "balls up" somewhere along the line, shame that you aren't "the bloke next door" who could just pop round, have a look, call me all the ****s under the sun, tell me what I have done wrong and present me with a large bill for drinks that you intend to consume on my tab round at the "legion" (at least my local legion has "reasonable" (ish) drinks prices).

You have no idea at my current level of relief and embarassment that I have actually managed to sort the first of my linux snags or that it has taken me so long!

Still, I suppose that it's one snag down, and about 3000 to go (though I should note that not only did the sound start working but I also manage to sus out how to kill my dsl connection in between sessions online - but that's only until I know enough to make sure that the "tinyfirewall" facility is working!).


goffer Three very distinct meanings i.e. contextural.

1. A heavy Sea or large wave which could have disasterous consequences e.g. "I got well and truly goffered when I went on the forecastle - pronounced "fokezel".

2. To be goffered can also mean to be punched, hard.

3. Any non-alcoholic cold drink - a goffer wallah is the person who sells them!

regards

John

Sweet! I am very happy for you about your sound issue. I will be glad to attempt to help you out with any more issues you have that I may have a little experience with.

Thanks for all the quotes from that cool book too!

Cool

Chad,

If the daft quotes from "Jackspeak" have amused you, the "ISBN" is 0 9514305 05 and I believe it's available from amazon. The full title is Jackspeak - the pusser's rum guide to Royal Navy Slanguage by Rick Jolly & tugg.

for info when the book was first produced, Rick Jolly was a "Surgeon Commander RN" and Tugg who illuminated the book (cartoons) is also ex RN though I am unsure in what capacity.

regards

John

p.s. maybe you could do a "USN" equivalent - just an idea!

Hey thanks John! Maybe i will be able to save on shipping as I am also planning on getting Linus Torvalds book, "Just for Fun".

Thanks again John!

I'm jumping in here at the last post as I didn't have time to read through all the others. I have an Avance AC97 sound card built in on the motherboard (Biostar with VIA chipset). I downloaded the AC97 Linux driver from viaarena.com, audio drivers and the instructions for installing. Ciao.

So do you have a problem or are you supplying a possible solution? I am confused by your post...

Cool

Sorry. I was suggesting a possible solution.

Hi everyone!
I've followed this post very closely and Ive just got the ALSA drivers to work!!

I found that

make && make install

did not work but...

make;make install

...did! woo hoo!

Thank you so much guys! I have spent sooo long with annoyingly crackly sound and finally its paid off!

Oh dear. I've just restarted linux and when I log in, I get:

Error while initilizing sound driver
device /dev/dsp can't be opened (no such device)
The sound server will continue, using the null output device

In order to find out the problem, I went thru the whole procedure again. When I ran the ./snddevices I got an error message at the end:

mv: cannot move '/dev/sndstat' to '/dev/1sndstat' : Operation not permitted
mv: cannot stat '/dev/1sndstat' : No such file of directory

F***!

Any ideas?

Thanks