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Old 04-15-2014, 07:41 AM   #1
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HP Proliant ML350 G5


Hi all

In my line of work we get given a lot of 2nd hand PC's, I was given a HP Proliant ML350 G5 a couple of weeks back, was a Primary School Server, I know its a little old but it still runs ok.

Specs to the Server is here,
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/q.../12475_div.PDF

I'm wiping the drives now due to old data still there.

I'm normally run a every day PC for my server using Ubuntu Server Software, just wondering if Ubuntu Server software will load

1st time using a server like this for linux

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Old 04-15-2014, 08:18 AM   #2
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You shouldn't have a problem at all. Loads of commercially used HP Proliants are running Redhat, CENTOS, SUSE and other distros. I've got an ML370 G4 with Ubuntu, Fedora and Centos on it. I need to do a bit of work to get it exactly the way I want it though as I had the system board die a while ago and had to replace it.

HP use a thing called a SmartStart CD to allow you to set up the SmartArray 200i RAID array and configure the disks. I think you should still be able to find an image to download out there on the Interweb. Probably version 8.2 would do. It also contains diagnostics to check the hardware out. They don't use this method any more as they've now got something called "Intelligent Provisioning" built into firmware which does the same job in their Gen 8 boxes. I wonder who thought that name up?

Note that configured disks will show up as /dev/cciss0 for the first logical volume set up, /dev/cciss1 for the second, etc.

Hope your install goes well! Enjoy!

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Old 04-15-2014, 09:07 AM   #3
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I've gone to HP site looking for the image, I dont see Ubuntu there

Drivers, Software & Firmware for HP SmartStart Software
 
Old 04-15-2014, 10:37 AM   #4
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SmartStart is a stand-alone bootable CD which allows you to configure the SmartArray RAID card and run diagnostics only. Use the RedHat one below... It's also got some utilities to help with installing the OS (hence the different OSs listed) but I've never bothered.
Failing that, you can get to the ACU (Array Configuration Utility) from somewhere within the POST messages, not so easy to use if I remember.

http://h20565.www2.hp.com/portal/sit...tte.cachetoken

Once you've set up the RAID, just boot from a normal Ubuntu Live CD downloaded from, er... Ubuntu

You may also be able to download the firmware upgrade CDs though HP have just changed the availability of this stuff to "Contract holders only." The ML350 G5's may still be available outside HP's box though, I don't know.

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Old 04-15-2014, 05:22 PM   #5
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Cheers for that, I'll get onto it today and ask a few questions at work

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Old 04-16-2014, 06:37 AM   #6
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OK I got it up and running

I asked a few questions at work and they kinda of explained what to do with the Raid, I chose 0
I have two drives in there, one is a 250G and the other is 500G, the raid told me it was using 500G, unsure to what its really doing but I was able to install Ubuntu Server, latest one version with long term support

At lest i can see the default web page

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It works!

This is the default web page for this server.

The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet
TT
 
Old 04-16-2014, 08:35 AM   #7
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OK, with two different size disks I doubt you needed to do any RAID set up. Has it even got a SmartStart array fitted?
My ML370 G4 has a couple of 36Gb disks stuck in a wee cage which fits in the Tape drive space at the front, both on the same SCSI channel, plus I've got 8 x 72.3Gb SAS drives in the main SmartStart array split two mirrored and 6 RAID 5.
Ubuntu 12.04 on one 36, Fedora 14 on the other, Centos 6 on the mirrors and the RAID volume I've left for data at present.

Good luck and..

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Old 04-16-2014, 05:21 PM   #8
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Yer is does have a SmartStart array fitted, I may play around with it tonight again, been pretty busy with new PC's this week, customers freaking out over XP, LOL

I've uploaded a image of the inside of the server

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Old 04-17-2014, 04:56 AM   #9
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Doh! It's got an embedded Smart Array 200i which is why there's no obvious card visible in the box. (The 'i' postscript means integrated.) I can see the RAID cache & battery at the bottom of the picture.
If it hasn't been used in a while, the battery takes 24hrs to recharge and the cache will be limited to write through only meaning slightly slower data access. No biggy. The batteries also should be replaced periodically. You get a message running Windows, I'm not sure about Linux, when it needs replacing. It'll also say in the POST messages. Again, if you're not particularly bothered, it's not a show stopper. If you use the server for business purposes it may be an issue.

I've never seen one fitted with only two disks with different capacities though. If you fit same capacity, different speeds, data access will be limited to that of the slowest disk. Anyway...

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Old 04-17-2014, 05:13 AM   #10
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I asked a few questions at work and they kinda of explained what to do with the Raid, I chose 0
I have two drives in there, one is a 250G and the other is 500G, the raid told me it was using 500G, unsure to what its really doing but I was able to install Ubuntu Server, latest one version with long term support
RAID 0 means no redundancy at all. If (when) one of the drives fail, you'll lose everything.

The 250G disk has to be pretty old. I'd recommend replacing it with a 500G drive and set up a RAID 1 (mirror) array. Any regular SATA drive will work; just (re-)use the hot-plug tray that the 250G drive is currently using.

If you can get your hands on more trays and drives, you can create a RAID 5 array since your server has a battery-backed cache module.
 
Old 04-17-2014, 05:30 AM   #11
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it has more more trays in there to fit more HDD's I have a 1 TB in my old server, so one 1TB and a 500G and 250G, will that do, I just have to get every thing off it first, LOL
 
Old 04-17-2014, 06:42 AM   #12
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Was just chatting to my brother that works on servers a lot, he was saying no need to set up raid due to not having all the same size drives, it should run OK with out it.

So I'm going to use the 1TB and the 500G as backup using cron jobs, then I'll save some dollars and up the memory and buy three same size drives.

what do you reckon !

By the way Happy Easter for those that are my way..

cheers TT
 
Old 04-17-2014, 07:10 AM   #13
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The server will run fine without RAID, as long as you're comfortable with the idea that an inevitable drive failure will result in hours of downtime and work, as well as the loss of all data added or changed since the last backup.

Running servers without RAID hardly even make sense in testing environments. The controller already supports RAID, and drives are cheap while work and downtime aren't.
 
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Yup! You don't have to set up the RAID but ensure that you use the proper HP drives, you can't just buy a drive and swap it into the caddy!
The list is quite big and dependant on the chassis and controller, etc! HP Part No's included, (I've Bolded a couple.) you can Google them for prices & availability.
You should be able to ID the drives you already have from this list. You normally use the Spare Part FRU No.

Info below from the ML350 G5 QuickSpecs openly available on the internet, Google Err... "ML350 G5 QuickSpecs"
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Hard Drives
NOTE: The components of a storage subsystem (e.g. the drive, the HBA/controller, firmware, and the server backplane) should operate at the same data transfer rate or the system bandwidth will be negotiated down to an acceptable level for all components.
NOTE: Hard drives have either a one year or three year warranty; refer to the specific hard drive QuickSpecs for details.

SAS Hot Plug SFF Enterprise (ENT) Drives
NOTE: Please note that SFF 2.5" (small form factor) drives can only be installed on tower or rack models with SFF chassis (models).
*
HP 300GB 6G SAS 10K SFF DP ENT HDD
507127-B21
HP 300GB 3G SAS 10K SFF DP ENT HDD
492620-B21
HP 146GB 6G SAS 15K SFF DP ENT HDD
512547-B21
HP 146GB 3G SAS 15K SFF DP ENT HDD
504062-B21
HP 146GB 6G SAS 10K SFF DP ENT HDD
507125-B21
HP 146GB 3G SAS 10K SFF DP ENT HDD
418367-B21
HP 72GB 6G SAS 15K SFF DP ENT HDD
512545-B21
HP 72GB 3G SAS 15K SFF DP ENT HDD
418371-B21
HP 72GB 3G SAS 10K SFF DP ENT HDD
384842-B21
SAS Hot Plug 3.5" Enterprise (ENT) Drives
NOTE: Please note that LFF 3.5" (large form factor) drives can only be installed on tower or rack models with LFF chassis (models).

HP 600GB 6G SAS 15K 3.5" DP ENT HDD
516828-B21
HP 450GB 6G SAS 15K 3.5" DP ENT HDD
516816-B21
HP 450GB 3G SAS 15K 3.5" DP ENT HDD
454232-B21
HP 300GB 6G SAS 15K 3.5" DP ENT HDD
516814-B21
HP 300GB 3G SAS 15K 3.5" DP ENT HDD
416127-B21
HP 146GB 3G SAS 15K 3.5" DP ENT HDD
384854-B21
SAS Hot Plug SFF Midline (MDL) Drives
*
HP 500GB 6G SAS 7.2K SFF DP MDL HDD
507610-B21
SAS Hot Plug 3.5" Midline (MDL) Drives
*
HP 1TB 3G SAS 7.2K 3.5" DP MDL HDD
461137-B21
HP 1TB 6G SAS 7.2K 3.5" DP MDL HDD
507614-B21
HP 750GB 3G SAS 7.2K 3.5" DP MDL HDD
461135-B21
NOTE: Please see the QuickSpecs for Technical Specifications and additional information: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/q...12244_div.html (Worldwide)
*
SATA Hot Plug SFF Midline (MDL) Drives
*
HP 500GB 3G SATA 7.2K 2.5in MDL HDD
507750-B21
HP 160GB 3G SATA 7.2K 2.5in MDL HDD
530888-B21
SATA Hot Plug 3.5" Midline (MDL) Drives

HP 1TB 3G SATA 7.2K 3.5" MDL HDD
454146-B21
HP 750GB 3G SATA 7.2K 3.5" MDL HDD
458930-B21
HP 500GB 3G SATA 7.2K 3.5" MDL HDD
458928-B21
HP 250GB 3G SATA 7.2K 3.5" MDL HDD
458926-B21
SATA Hot Plug SFF Entry (ETY) Drives
*
HP 250GB 3G SATA 5.4K SFF ETY HDD
460355-B21
HP 120GB 1.5G SATA 5.4K SFF ETY HDD
458924-B21
SATA Hot Plug 3.5" Entry (ETY) Drives

HP 160GB 3G SATA 7.2K 3.5" ETY HDD
458945-B21
NOTE: Please see the QuickSpecs for Technical Specifications and additional information: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/q...13021_div.html (Worldwide)
*
3.5" SATA Hot Plug Drives

HP 750GB 1.5G SATA 7.2K 3.5" HDD
432341-B21
HP 500GB 1.5G SATA 7.2K 3.5" HDD
395473-B21
HP 250GB 1.5G SATA 7.2K 3.5" HDD
349239-B21
HP 160GB 1.5G SATA 7.2K 3.5" HDD
349238-B21
NOTE: The previous generation of 1.5G SATA drives are still supported. These drives can be purchased as an option, however they are no longer configurable.
NOTE: Please see the QuickSpecs for Technical Specifications and additional information:
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/q...11940_div.html
*
SATA Hot Plug Midline (MDL) Solid State Drives
*
HP 60GB 3G SATA 2.5in MDL 1y Wty SSD
572071-B21
HP 120GB 3G SATA 2.5in MDL 1y Wty SSD
572073-B21
SATA Hot Plug 3.5" Midline (MDL) Solid State Drives
*
HP 60GB 3G SATA 3.5in MDL 1y Wty SSD
570761-B21
HP 120GB 3G SATA 3.5in MDL 1y Wty SSD
570763-B21
NOTE: Please see the QuickSpecs for Technical Specifications and additional information:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/q...13415_div.html (Worldwide)
Hope it's of some use!

Play Bonny!


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Old 04-17-2014, 08:58 AM   #15
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OK thanks for that,

I put the 1TB in and it booted OK, one problem NO network. just wondering if I reset the network would it be OK to run, it all ready has Ubuntu Server on the drive.

I can see I have eth1 and eth2

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