[SOLVED] Does My PC have Port for Ethernet Crossover Cable?
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Does My PC have Port for Ethernet Crossover Cable?
I recently bought a new ASUS desktop that I want to connect to my old one. Visually, my Lan port is
directly situated next to what appear to me to be 2 ports, both identified as “USB” with that little
3 forked prong icon. (see blow-up: https://www.manualowl.com/m/eMachine...119364?page=16)
If there isn't a port to connect to my new PC, what are my options?
My intended use is as a backup & storage device that doesn't need to be connected to the internet; at least directly.
Although, I am considering BOINC used by SETI@home for such times I don't need lots of bandwidth.
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TRIGGER: emachines OEM T2893
Interfaces: 5 USB 2.0 ports (1 in media manager, 4 in back)
VGA external connector, 1 Serial, 1 Parallel, 2 PS/2, Audio In & Out
You should be able to connect both machines with a standard Ethernet patch cable.
Usually modern NICs are clever enough to work out the connections accordingly.
Then set both machines up with static IP addresses and you should be on your way.
Thanks for the reply. "Should" and "Usually" are normative terms that really don't help the
likes of me; much. AFAICT, both my old eMachines unit and the new Asus M32AD (see:http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Desktops/M32AD/) each have but one LAN port. I probably don't understand what I'm seeing ... which is why I'm pestering y'all.
Thanks for the reply. "Should" and "Usually" are normative terms that really don't help the likes of me; much.
Well unless you find someone on here that has exactly the same make / model and production run of both of your bits of hardware then you're out of luck for 100% definitive advice.
As you're unlikely to find someone with that knowledge on here why not just buy a $8 switch and get on with it.
My comments are based on using normal patch cables without problems on a variety of machines over a number of years, have you tried it with a standard patch cable?
Well unless you find someone on here that has exactly the same make / model and production run of both of your bits of hardware then you're out of luck for 100% definitive advice.
As you're unlikely to find someone with that knowledge on here why not just buy a $8 switch and get on with it.
My comments are based on using normal patch cables without problems on a variety of machines over a number of years, have you tried it with a standard patch cable?
TT:
No need to get testy. Perhaps I haven't explained myself as well as I should; If So, my apologies. I'm not going to buy more paraphernalia until I know what I'm doing.
If each of my PC's has only one ethernet port, as should be apparent from the images I linked to y'all, and I connect my new unit to my modem, its ethernet port is occupied. If I want to have my old PC connected to it, to what port do I connect the Patch/Crossover Cable? The Crossover Cables I've viewed on the internet don't split into two. They're just a single cable. https://www.google.ca/search?q=Ether...w&ved=0CEoQsAQ
and I connect my new unit to my modem, its ethernet port is occupied.
And you were going to mention this when?
Is your "modem" really a "router" and are you sure it only has one Ethernet port? Most routers these days usually have a built in switch, indeed I can't remember the last time I saw a ADSL/Cable NTU that didn't have at least 4 ports.
There you go again! Enough with the snides; already. I mentioned it in my OP.
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Modem: 56K ITU v.92-ready fax/modem
It's 3 years old, supplied by my IP and has one etho and one RJ-11 Fax port.
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Is your "modem" really a "router" and are you sure it only has one Ethernet port? Most routers these days usually have a built in switch, indeed I can't remember the last time I saw a ADSL/Cable NTU that didn't have at least 4 ports.
"Most" ... like, I cautioned already about using normative terms to address technical problems.
"NTU" Just what does the Nanyang Technological University have to do with this thread?
"I can't remember the last time I saw..." How am I 'supposed'to know what you've seen?
LAN connections are always point-to-point. You aren't going to find a "Y" cable.
You have a somewhat unusual setup with a 56K (presumeably dialup) modem with a LAN connection. What is the brand and model number? The only ones I find by searching have a built in router and multiple LAN connections. Since your modem apparently does not include a router, you will need either a switch or a router to allow you to interconnect multiple devices. That's almost certainly going to turn out to be a router, but first let's find out exactly what you have and what software you use to connect to the internet.
A dial up MODEM typically has two RJ11 ports i.e. one that connects to the wall and the other a telephone. Not sure i've seen a combo but really does not help.
The SB5100 is just a MODEM, i.e. no router capabilities.
Purchase a router (with or without WiFi). Maybe the most expensive option and I don't know your situation but with wifi you can connect smart mobile phones, tablets, new TVs etc. Separates your home network from the rest of the world.
Purchase another network card for you new desktop. You can set up a separate network for you old PC.
Purchase a switch. You can configure a virtual ethernet adapter on your new PC which will be on a different network then your MODEM. Network traffic will be slower then a separate NIC. Typically your ISP only assigns a dynamic IP address based upon the MAC of the device connected to the MODEM. If you don't keep your MODEM powered up all the time then the first device powered will be able to connect to the internet.
Purchase two wireless adapters. You can set them up as AD-HOC mode which basically is the same as a separate network card except the network will be wireless.
Purchase two USB ethernet adapters. If you can not install a PCI type network card in your new PC. Finding supported adapters may be a problem.
Is the new PC going to be dual boot or linux only?
Knowing how to ask a question is half the battle to getting an answer...
There you go again! Enough with the snides; already. I mentioned it in my OP.
It's 3 years old, supplied by my IP and has one etho and one RJ-11 Fax port.
I see no reason for your response to a fellow member who has been trying to help you.
If you had provided all details in the original post there would not have been any issue(s). Members have patiently tried to help you.
Your modem is a cable modem with one RJ45 port connection & USB connector;
Ethernet Connector: For use with a computer or home network connection. Ethernet is the preferred method of connectivity for Delta Cable modems.
Member TenTenths mentioned the purchase of a Ethernet switch to allow expansion of your LAN(Local Area Network). That would be a easy and cheap means of allowing more ports on the LAN at minimal cost.
Please look at the following to help us aid you;
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Originally Posted by r00ster
"Most" ... like, I cautioned already about using normative terms to address technical problems.
"NTU" Just what does the Nanyang Technological University have to do with this thread?
"I can't remember the last time I saw..." How am I 'supposed'to know what you've seen?
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Sure a lot of information to digest but you do need to start somewhere to learn technical specifics. If you do not understand a members post then please post back politely with a request to define points you do not understand.
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Last edited by onebuck; 10-15-2014 at 01:01 PM.
Reason: typo
I can't imagine a modern desktop sold that doesn't have a NIC. I'd suspect that you may have to config it. Pretty sure we can get you going if this post doesn't turn into a hockey game.
If it doesn't have a linux supported nic it might be supported by a windows driver even.
If no nic then maybe an add on either usb or pci. Can get two wireless usb nic's to work even if you wanted.
You don't really need a crossover if only one of the nic's are newer like 2003 and above. Patch should work.
LAN connections are always point-to-point. You aren't going to find a "Y" cable.
You have a somewhat unusual setup with a 56K (presumeably dialup) modem with a LAN connection. What is the brand and model number? The only ones I find by searching have a built in router and multiple LAN connections. Since your modem apparently does not include a router, you will need either a switch or a router to allow you to interconnect multiple devices. That's almost certainly going to turn out to be a router, but first let's find out exactly what you have and what software you use to connect to the internet.
rkn:
Not a dialup. Its a HSCable. Silly me! I thought that was the 'usual setup' for a Stand-alone home desktop.
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What is the brand and model number?
I included the model # in my OP.
The Brand was included in my previous post along with a link to a page with pics and specs.
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56K ITU v.92-ready fax/modem
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Motorola SB5100/SB5101 Non-WiFi Modem
AFAIK, my IP Address is assigned via DHCP; i.e., by my Internet Provider. The modem was installed/connected by an IT Tech from my IP back in 2006, or thereabouts. As far as what software was/is involved, you might have to give me the appropriate command to fetch that info.
And thank you for your reply.
jefro;
I hope this is what you would like me to provide. Somehow it doesn't seem quite right to me. Perhaps there is a better approach/command/utility. FYI: my new PC is still in the box. I'm still using the Old Fart.
Code:
# ethtool eth0
Settings for eth0:
Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
Supported pause frame use: No
Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
Link partner advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
Speed: 100Mb/s
Duplex: Full
Port: MII
PHYAD: 1
Transceiver: internal
Auto-negotiation: on
Supports Wake-on: g
Wake-on: g
Current message level: 0x00000007 (7)
drv probe link
Link detected: yes
This is all new to me. I thought providing all the info I could, including links to specs & pics of both PC's & the Modem, would be sufficient to articulate my problem to hardware 'long-heads' without creating offense. My mistake; I guess.
The Brand was included in my previous post along with a link to a page with pics and specs.
56K ITU v.92-ready fax/modem
That is what confused me. It refers to the 56K dialup modem that is built into that eMachines box and connects via the "Telephone" and "Modem" jacks near the bottom of the picture. You won't be using that at all. Forget about it.
You have an ordinary SB5100 or SB5101 cable modem that has a LAN interface. (It also has a USB interface, but that cannot be used simultaneously with the LAN interface and is not the preferred way to connect to that modem.) What you need now is a router. It will allow up to 4 machines to talk to each other and also share the internet connection. They aren't terribly expensive -- $60 to $70 for a reasonably decent one. I'll leave it to others to suggest a model. It will almost certainly have WiFi capability, which you should turn off if you don't want to use it. (While you can get routers that do not have WiFi, consumer-grade routers that include WiFi are so much more common that you will likely pay more to not have that feature.)
Both can be made to work. I'd suspect the Intel is fully supported and only needs some ip address if you are not on dhcp. If not then set a static ip and some default subnet to use for the computer to computer connection.
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