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Old 09-11-2005, 09:41 AM   #16
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also to add to this i made changes the the /etc/lilo.conf to reflect the /dev/sda4 and to the fstabe swap and hd /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda4
 
Old 09-11-2005, 01:41 PM   #17
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Hey all,
I'm running a Dell Inspiron 6000 with Mdk 10.1 and I think I almost have wireless working. I get an IP address, but can't browse. The output from 'lsmod|grep eth1' is "eth1: duplicate address detected". Any suggestions at all would be appreciated.
 
Old 09-15-2005, 08:31 AM   #18
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Hey all,
I'm running a Dell Inspiron 6000 with Mdk 10.1 and I think I almost have wireless working. I get an IP address, but can't browse. The output from 'lsmod|grep eth1' is "eth1: duplicate address detected". Any suggestions at all would be appreciated.
How did you set the IP address for your eth1 on Mdk 10.1? DHCP or fix IP?

If you are using fix IP you got to reconfigure it to another IP or reconfigure the other offending machine.

If it is DHCP (which I find unlikely), then you got somebody hording an IP on your network.
 
Old 09-16-2005, 09:55 AM   #19
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Thanks for answering,
You'll find this very strange then, I'm trying to configure it for DHCP on public WAP's. Here is some of my terminal output.

[kris@localhost kris]$ su
Password:

[root@localhost kris]# dmesg|grep eth1
eth1: duplicate address detected!

[root@localhost kris]# iwconfig eth1
eth1 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"Daylight" Nickname:"localhost"
Mode:Managed Channel:6 Access Point: 00:11:95:1C:39:81
Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm
RTS thrff Fragment thrff
Encryption keyff
Power Managementff
Link Quality:89/100 Signal level:-34 dBm Noise level:-80 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:17 Missed beacon:6

[root@localhost kris]# ifconfig eth1
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:F0:43:38:0D
inet addr:192.168.0.167 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::212:f0ff:fe43:380d/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:106 errors:0 dropped:17 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:23574 (23.0 Kb) TX bytes:1052 (1.0 Kb)
Interrupt:17 Base address:0x7000 Memory:dfdfd000-dfdfdfff

[root@localhost kris]# lsmod|grep ipw
ipw2200 122828 0
firmware_class 7232 1 ipw2200
ieee80211 29092 1 ipw2200

[root@localhost kris]# dmesg|grep ipw2200
ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.0
ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2004 Intel Corporation
ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection

It looks to me like I have an IP, but I still can't browse. I read somewhere that the "Duplicate address error" was possibly the result of DNS being misconfigured, but I thought I wouldn't have to worry about that if I'm using DHCP over a public WAP.
BTW, I didn't start with a clean install. I bought this machine because hardware support was supposed to be certified and I first tried to use 'Configure Your Computer' to set this up. Maybe something is still hanging around from an earlier install attempt(?!).
 
Old 09-16-2005, 11:43 AM   #20
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Yeah, your wifi seems to be in order.

But would like you to check a few things just for the sake of being sure.

1. can post your route info:
Code:
route
2. what does /etc/resolv.conf says?

3.
Code:
ping 192.168.0.1
4.
Code:
dig google.com
5. if you have netwatch installed, observed whether there is any BAD MAC address for your IP. Is there is a BAD MAC address then you would probably have some one using 192.168.0.167 as a fix IP.

Code:
netwatch -e eth1

Well this is not all that you could do. But it is a start.
 
Old 09-17-2005, 04:59 PM   #21
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[kris@localhost kris]$ su
Password:

[root@localhost kris]# route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1

/etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 192.168.0.1

ping 192.168.0.1
seems to give an endless output, don't know how to make it stop. Please forgive my ignorance.

[root@localhost kris]# ping 192.168.0.1
PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=2.98 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=3.67 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=2.00 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=2.72 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=1.86 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=255 time=7.60 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=255 time=1.85 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=255 time=4.75 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=255 time=2.13 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=255 time=1.87 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=255 time=1.88 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=255 time=1.86 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=255 time=2.43 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=255 time=3.63 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=15 ttl=255 time=1.97 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=16 ttl=255 time=1.86 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=17 ttl=255 time=3.67 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=18 ttl=255 time=1.95 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=19 ttl=255 time=2.51 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=20 ttl=255 time=3.00 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=21 ttl=255 time=2.01 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=22 ttl=255 time=2.02 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=23 ttl=255 time=1.97 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=24 ttl=255 time=1.86 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=25 ttl=255 time=1.86 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=26 ttl=255 time=8.57 ms

[root@localhost kris]# dig google.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.0rc4 <<>> google.com
;; global options: printcmd

;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8476
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;google.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
google.com. 300 IN A 216.239.57.99
google.com. 300 IN A 216.239.37.99

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
google.com. 269690 IN NS ns2.google.com.
google.com. 269690 IN NS ns3.google.com.
google.com. 269690 IN NS ns4.google.com.
google.com. 269690 IN NS ns1.google.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.google.com. 343313 IN A 216.239.32.10
ns2.google.com. 343313 IN A 216.239.34.10
ns3.google.com. 170513 IN A 216.239.36.10
ns4.google.com. 170513 IN A 216.239.38.10

;; Query time: 46 msec

;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)

;; WHEN: Sat Sep 17 10:20:41 2005
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 196

[root@localhost kris]# netwatch -e eth1
bash: netwatch: command not found
[root@localhost kris]#

I checked my install disks and couldn't find netwatch. Apparently I can't do that right now. Also, I'm living dangerously and have the firewall turned off, for now. Sorry for the clumsy formatting.

Last edited by taupist; 09-17-2005 at 05:03 PM.
 
Old 09-17-2005, 10:17 PM   #22
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Hmm.. things seems to be in order.

How about
Code:
ping -c 10 google.com
That would allow you to ping for 10 times. If you want it to ping for less time then -c 4 that would be 4 times. Continuesly would be without any options. Ctrl-C to stop it.

Does the public access point requires you to go through proxy?

For example http proxy 192.168.0.1 port 8080?
 
Old 09-19-2005, 08:21 AM   #23
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Judging by the out put of the ping command, it looks like it's working. I still can't browse with Firefox, though. Do I have to manually set a mount point or is it the 'Duplicate address' issue. BTW, I scavenged the 'dhclient' command from the LQ Wiki (don't know if it will help). In any event, I really appreciate your replies, thanks for all your help.

[root@d5lc1971 kris]# ping -c 10 google.com
PING google.com (216.239.57.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=37.7 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=49.9 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=71.8 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=58.3 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=240 time=62.5 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=6 ttl=240 time=52.6 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=7 ttl=240 time=119 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=8 ttl=240 time=68.5 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=9 ttl=240 time=83.8 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=10 ttl=240 time=36.1 ms

--- google.com ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9009ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 36.120/64.142/119.714/23.251 ms

[root@d5lc1971 kris]# dhclient eth1
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.1
Copyright 2004 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP

sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
eth0: unknown hardware address type 24
sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
eth0: unknown hardware address type 24
Listening on LPF/eth1/00:12:f0:43:38:0d
Sending on LPF/eth1/00:12:f0:43:38:0d
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
DHCPOFFER from 192.168.25.1
DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPACK from 192.168.25.1
bound to 192.168.25.95 -- renewal in 1481 seconds.
 
Old 09-19-2005, 10:18 AM   #24
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Your IP has changed from the last you reported.

At it seems that you are even on a different subnet.

I seriously suspect you need to set the proxy setting in firefox. I think you should contact the administrator of the public access point for more info.

Free wifi is cool. If it works.

Oh that reminds me of 'free' 1 hour limited wifi service at Stockholm-Arlanda Airport. Makes transit a more bearable ordeal.


p.s.
Oh, can you browse with WindozeXP which came with the machine?

Last edited by carboncopy; 09-19-2005 at 10:22 AM.
 
Old 09-19-2005, 05:26 PM   #25
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Hey again carboncopy,
Yes I can browse with XP. No, I don't think it's a proxy issue. I've been trying more than one AP, I seem to get pretty much the same results at most other public AP's. I can look in the settings in Firefox, but if it can't be set to pick up proxy automaticly then I'm not sure what to do. I'll have to try again next weekend as I'm pretty busy this week.
 
Old 09-20-2005, 12:27 PM   #26
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I have an Inspriron 6000 notebook

The harddrive it NOT IDE its sata
Cdrom is ATAPI

Its sad how little support there is for dell laptops on linux.... but i think it will change soon, i heard they are shipping now with some kind of distro?

go ahead and e-mail me Derrekito AT gmail.com if you need more help with this problematic laptop.
 
Old 09-20-2005, 10:56 PM   #27
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I have an Inspriron 6000 notebook

The harddrive it NOT IDE its sata
Cdrom is ATAPI

Its sad how little support there is for dell laptops on linux.... but i think it will change soon, i heard they are shipping now with some kind of distro?

go ahead and e-mail me Derrekito AT gmail.com if you need more help with this problematic laptop.
It took me more the a week to 'figure out' the SATA harddrive.

Dell Inspiron 6000 problematic Laptop?
Not for me. However, I have not tested the bluetooth and firewire yet.

The rest works great. Even ATI latest installer driver works.

However, I did have the first laptop replaced because in WinXP, the display gets turn off after WinXP boot logo. But no problem in Linux.

Now with the replacement unit, everything works fine. And no dead pixel (the original laptop have one).

Oh, I do have a problem (in Linux only) with the Broadcom 440 NIC with 100Mbit HalfDuplex HUB. It gets freak out by its own packets. So a max transfer rate of around 300kbyte/s. This is due to Broadcom driver problem.

About Dell shipping laptop with Mandriva. Well it is in France only. And with low-end Dell Latitude lapys only at this moment. Hope to see removal of M$ tax.

OT. Can I get a refund for M$ Works since I don't use it?
 
Old 09-21-2005, 12:45 PM   #28
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Quote:
Originally posted by carboncopy
It took me more the a week to 'figure out' the SATA harddrive.

Dell Inspiron 6000 problematic Laptop?
Not for me. However, I have not tested the bluetooth and firewire yet.

The rest works great. Even ATI latest installer driver works.

However, I did have the first laptop replaced because in WinXP, the display gets turn off after WinXP boot logo. But no problem in Linux.

Now with the replacement unit, everything works fine. And no dead pixel (the original laptop have one).

Oh, I do have a problem (in Linux only) with the Broadcom 440 NIC with 100Mbit HalfDuplex HUB. It gets freak out by its own packets. So a max transfer rate of around 300kbyte/s. This is due to Broadcom driver problem.

About Dell shipping laptop with Mandriva. Well it is in France only. And with low-end Dell Latitude lapys only at this moment. Hope to see removal of M$ tax.

OT. Can I get a refund for M$ Works since I don't use it?
I say problematic because it sorta forces you to use 2.6 kernel to get wireless network card going but i need the 2.4 kernel for other hardware on my computer.... just lots of compromises with this model caused by lack of linux support on dell's side for sure. Wish we could get a refund for that crap they made us buy and dont use... M$ XP being the main thing.

Last edited by derrekito; 09-21-2005 at 12:46 PM.
 
Old 09-22-2005, 08:42 AM   #29
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IPW2200 Wireless


Hey guys, I just tried to change the proxy settings in Firefox with no luck. On a whim, I decided to try Mozilla . . .
. . . It works(!!!). Thanks, I'll be checking out your link and doing alot of exploring. I don't know how to fix Firefox yet, but at least I'm live. I think the sun's coming up (in more ways than one), gotta go to work; thanks again for all your help.
 
Old 10-08-2005, 07:15 AM   #30
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apparently it is possible to get a refund from microsoft for the winXP license - i don't know about the works software, or any of the other rubbish. it might be worth talking to corel about psp, too - they've always seemed like a relatively decent-minded company, so they may be willing to aquiesce on the license issue. your best bet is to try and contact microsoft's resident office/branch in your country, and harangue them until they give in.

both my father and i have worked for years in IT support, and if you know anyone that's built up a working relationship with microsoft (be it on a technical level, or purely though buying a great many products of 'theirs'), they may be able to swing it for you.
microsoft operates much like a beehive; if you're trying to get in, you'll get stung contantly. once you're inside, you can get away with murder. odd but true.
 
  


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