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I'm saying that reviewers have not been kind to Slackware. They like to spread rumors that it is impossible to install and use. Of course, these rumors are not true, and the reviewers are superficial at best in their attempt to install and use Slackware.
I have to admit this is becoming confusing. The initial question was one about what is a good, stable distribution. Forum members have offered their input. Cinnamon started with Linux MINT and I believe that Cinnamon is getting compiled for other distributions due to it's popularity, but mainly if you perform a web search; what you'll find are that individuals have done this and posted their efforts in individual blogs. I do not consider that to be too stable, whatever the prowess of the poster may be, mainly because you don't really know, it would be your own experiment to also perform by paralleling whatever that person did.
I see two wants here: window manager and package manager.
Seems like you have some preferences. Not sure if you actually do have a package manager preference, you've made negative comments about apt a few times; O.K. I get that you don't think it's the best. However what package manager is a better alternative that you do like? Seems pretty clear that you like a GTK based window manager.
Once you have clarity in your personal choices, then seek out distributions which support the choices which meet your preferences.
I suspect that actually Linux From Scratch may be the option where you get exactly what you want in your distribution.
Was that said in response to the suggestion to try CentOS? If so, I don't understand your point. CentOS is a free port of RHEL, which is used on servers across the world.
And as rtmistler pointed out, why are you so focused on the desktop environment for a server in the first place?
Thanks to all,
no one understood me or am I that I was not good at explaining!
I was looking for a stable distribution to be used for some time as a workstation!
I wanted a distribution without apt-get and CINNAMON but there is not, then that's fine mate.
you have recommended Slackware and my question was, how do I install a package looking for his name in the terminal? why do you recommend Slackware and not Arch?
are both Rolling right? then it may not be stable both right?
you have recommended that CentOS is a distribution server, and with special packages and with nothing (not sure if GUI) that can serve me, so I do not see why using CentOS!
really, I apologize for having wasted your time
Last edited by DarkPassenger; 11-06-2014 at 02:43 PM.
I have recommended that CentOS is a distribution server, and with special packages and with nothing (not sure if GUI) that can serve me, so I do not see why using CentOS!
CentOS certainly has a GUI and is perfectly suitable for a workstation. It doesn't have Cinnamon either, but other than that I haven't seen you mention any requirements that CentOS can't meet.
The Cinnamon requirement severely limits your possibilities unless you install it yourself.
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but it is server
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Originally Posted by DarkPassenger
I was looking for a stable distribution to be used for some time as a workstation!
So, which one is it ?
Slackware is NOT rolling release. There exist a number of package management programs for slackware, but in general dependencies are handled by YOU, so if that's a problem go with Debian.
Thanks to all,
no one understood me or am I that I was not good at explaining!
I was looking for a stable distribution to be used for some time as a workstation!
I wanted a distribution without apt-get and CINNAMON but there is not, then that's fine mate.
you have recommended Slackware and my question was, how do I install a package looking for his name in the terminal? why do you recommend Slackware and not Arch?
are both Rolling right? then it may not be stable both right?
you have recommended that CentOS is a distribution server, and with special packages and with nothing (not sure if GUI) that can serve me, so I do not see why using CentOS!
really, I apologize for having wasted your time
That earlier one-liner stating "server" did cause some confusion.
MINT Debian; you can use the Cinnamon desktop and dpkg.
A repeat of something I said earlier though. I mentioned that you seemed to prioritize the desktop and package management. However all you've ever said was that you don't want to use apt.
A confusion concern here is whether or not an upcoming response might be, "I don't 'know/like/want to use' dpkg." So this is why I recommended that you summarize earlier and offer a selection choice for package manager versus just saying you'd like to avoid apt.
My final thoughts are that the web tells us all everything we need to know in order to be able to employ any of the most popular package management utilities, therefore if I get a distro that has a package manager I'm not familiar with, I look it up and boom, I'm done. If that distro and package manager is so cutting edge that there are no packages, well that will draw me away from it.
The other final thought is IMHO, by taking the stance that you don't want to use apt, a very widely used package manager, you're limiting yourself due to some bias or predjudice. Never balk at some minor tool just because you don't "prefer" it so much. The package manager is after all, just a tool and honestly I'm not installing and uninstalling on an everyday basis except when I spin up a new distro.
I mean, I don't "love" vi, but I know vi because when all you have is a command prompt, you can't run an editor which requires X. And I'm never going to say that I don't want a distro which uses vi. The point there is I'm betting that you can change your package manager somehow ... or best case don't use a package manager and build from sources when you install new stuff as much as you can.
Thanks to all,
no one understood me or am I that I was not good at explaining!
I think it's you, sorry
I understand that english may not be your primary language, so we are trying REALY HARD to understand what you want and trying to help you.
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you have recommended Slackware and my question was, how do I install a package looking for his name in the terminal?
slackpkg search virtualbox
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Originally Posted by DarkPassenger
why do you recommend Slackware and not Arch?
Because you told us that you wanted stability... Arch is a rolling release and your system breaks often.
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are both Rolling right? then it may not be stable both right?
No.
Slackware has 2 stages: stable and current.
Slackware 14.1 (the stable version as of today) will get only security patches to packages.
Slackware-current is a bleeding-edge "beta" that will become (eventually) the next stable.
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you have recommended that CentOS is a distribution server, and with special packages and with nothing (not sure if GUI) that can serve me, so I do not see why using CentOS!
All linux distros can be used for servers or for workstations.
Granted: some distros are optimized for one kind of work... but you CAN use CentOS on your laptop. Just turn off the server stuff (daemons).
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