[SOLVED] systemd and server maintainability for future libraries/programs

Kearneyman · 05-16-2018, 09:56 PM

This is question about systemd stability/maintainability for servers.
This is not about your opinions on systemd.

I would like to use Alpine Linux for my server, however, it does not use systemd. Will this present a problem in the next few years? Meaning, will the lack of systemd present startup issues for things like databases, web servers, mounting hard drives, RAID drives on start up?

I currently use PHP-FPM + nGinx + MySQL

I compile PHP-FPM from source, and would like to continue starting the binary before nGinx starts up. I'm using upstart on my current server and have no problems. However, I don't know if the programs I rely upon will take advantage of systemd in a way that will break my current system.

I'm not a sys admin, I'm a developer, who has some sys admin skills, but mostly, I just want to get stuff done.

frankbell · 05-16-2018, 10:09 PM

I see that Alpine Linux uses OpenRC for its init system. https://iwf1.com/systemd-vs-openrc-w...you-comparison

Unless Gentoo decides to abandon OpenRC, it should be quite reliable, and the Gentoo community is very strong and very committed to Gentoo. This article may help: https://iwf1.com/systemd-vs-openrc-w...you-comparison

I have no personal experience with OpenRC.

Turbocapitalist · 05-16-2018, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kearneyman

I would like to use Alpine Linux for my server, however, it does not use [...]. Will this present a problem in the next few years? Meaning, will the lack of [...] present startup issues for things like databases, web servers, mounting hard drives, RAID drives on start up?

The question should be framed in the context of OpenRC then, instead of baiting.

The short answer is no, the package maintainers for the Alpine Linux repositories take care of making sure there are scripts to start, stop, and check on daemons. The longer answer is probably not, as long as upstream packages maintain independence and don't go like Gnome went there won't be issues.

Kearneyman · 05-16-2018, 11:25 PM

Thanks for the info y'all!

I actually didn't know that Alpine used OpenRC. I was just looking for a good small distro for a web-server to replace by Ubuntu 14 box, and trying to get some info

I just wanted to make sure that MySQL/Nginx weren't going to do anything to take advantage of one init system over another, and also make sure I could mount drives, external drives without issues.

Thanks again