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Old 06-27-2011, 12:00 PM   #16
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@onebuck: Why did you reply to this thread in the first place (#8)? You in essence killed this fun thread with very closed replies, with something that isn't relevant and based on personal experience (which wasn't very clear in your first post).

Not something I expected from a member, let alone a moderator.

I know, this will probably be qualified again by you as "personal view" or some such, but I am wondering about the above.

The following _is_ a very personal view: I don't think moderators should moderate threads they participate in on a personal base. This easily crosses lines if one isn't careful.

Enough time spend on this........
I am still a member here at LQ. If you find my posts objectionable then please use the report form. My post #8 stands for what I said. Jokes that cause disruption or even variant from the norm for an employer should/will suffer consequences for the originator. Very thin line;
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Moderators have as much right as other members to participate here at LQ. As to moderation within a ongoing thread, it can be difficult but doable.

My posts are constructive from my point of view. But can be considered abstract to 'Linux Practical jokes'. Not a fun thread when jokes/joviality cause one to move or change environments from the norm as a employee for the employer. Buyer beware!
 
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:06 PM   #17
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I think that the opinions in this thread are at the extremes.

One is that practical jokes are necessary. The other that they should be forbidden.

I think that these are extreme. I think there should always be some leniency. I don't personally enjoy most practical jokes, especially sick or mean ones. But, some are funny, and as long as everyone has a laugh and nobody gets hurt or wastes too much time, it's fine with me.
 
Old 06-27-2011, 12:16 PM   #18
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I am speaking as a moderator now. You should not mangle or misquote to show viewpoints. 'Quote' is just that, valid representation of material that you are either for or against with a written view. Do not mangle, misquote or present material in a poor representation.

Do not do it again! You will suffer infractions from moderators, myself included.
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There is no such rule. I believe you will have to talk to Jeremy if you'd like to add rules to his forum.

However, rule 5 states that you should not post if your message will interfere with the purpose of the thread (which was to share fun and harmless practical jokes) -- Which you have broken yourself in this thread.
 
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:22 PM   #19
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Enough time spend on this........
Agreed...
 
Old 06-27-2011, 12:39 PM   #20
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Agreed...
I asked for it to be closed when it went off topic.
 
Old 06-27-2011, 01:39 PM   #21
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Hi,

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http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/rules.html

There is no such rule. I believe you will have to talk to Jeremy if you'd like to add rules to his forum.

However, rule 5 states that you should not post if your message will interfere with the purpose of the thread (which was to share fun and harmless practical jokes) -- Which you have broken yourself in this thread.
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The above underlined LQR is appropriate just as it would be for public representation or direct violation for improper representation publically. As for drift, I along with others have had abstract opinions. To use practical jokes on one's own machines is one thing but to cause disruption on someone Else's machine then you would be in violation of laws or even guidelines for most employers.

I am extracting the posts to a new thread: Professionalism & Gnu/Linux. So if you wish this thread ([SOLVED] Linux practical joke) to carry on then so be it. But if anyone provides a means that cause harm or violates LQ Rules in any sense then this thread ([SOLVED] Linux practical joke) will be closed.
 
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Old 06-27-2011, 01:54 PM   #22
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I removed my replies from this "thread".

It is _not_ the original thread I replied to and _not_ the general context in which I placed my replies!!

Talk about pulling things out of context!!
 
Old 06-27-2011, 01:58 PM   #23
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What does this thread have to do with GNU/Linux (as the title suggests)?
 
Old 06-27-2011, 02:03 PM   #24
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Hi,

Duly noted in the first post that posts are remove from the original: Linux practical joke.

Your rights to extract or edit out of this thread. Quotes for your posts will remain within my posts.

Another professional presentation. You stated the drift and desire to re-track. In doing so I created another thread with extracted posts and noted as such. Linux practical joke will remain open unless violations of LQ Rules.
 
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Old 06-27-2011, 02:05 PM   #25
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Hi,


The above underlined LQR is appropriate just as it would be for public representation or direct violation for improper representation publically. As for drift, I along with others have had abstract opinions. To use practical jokes on one's own machines is one thing but to cause disruption on someone Else's machine then you would be in violation of laws or even guidelines for most employers.

I am extracting the posts to a new thread: Professionalism & Gnu/Linux. So if you wish this thread ([SOLVED] Linux practical joke) to carry on then so be it. But if anyone provides a means that cause harm or violates LQ Rules in any sense then this thread ([SOLVED] Linux practical joke) will be closed.
I think you've successfully made a mockery of LinuxQuestions rules, quoting them and interpretting them to suit your own agenda. Aside from jumping into a conversation and de-railing it, you've misrepresented an innocuous change to "My OWN computer" as harmful and illegal and deleted the original post. When other users and myself disagreed with your argumentative ramblings you strutted your moderator status in front of us.

Now that the OP is gone, the context is gone and the thread is worthless, and makes it look as if you *didn't* hijack the thread.

I disagree with your actions and IMO I think you are an embarassment to LQ's dedicated group of moderators here and a detriment to the free exchange of ideas and information between users. You shouldn't be a moderator.
 
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Old 06-27-2011, 02:08 PM   #26
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Wow - come back on Monday to find a severe spoilsport link in the original thread.

I don't think anyone in that thread suggested they spend all day every day doing practical jokes. A few jokes are harmless enough. At one company back when everything was dial up they even had a practical joke script they'd put in someone's .profile after they'd been there for a week.

On login it would tell you that it was dialing into one of the most important customer's sites and ask if you wanted to proceed. No matter what you typed it would say "OK dialing in." It would then ask if you were sure you wanted to remove the customer's data files and again no matter what you typed it would tell you it was proceeding. It would continue to do more and more destructive actions each time presenting you with a question about continuing. While it was a funny practical joke it was also a good indicator of whether new employees would blindly destroy a customer site rather than asking for help. It didn't bother me to be the target of it and I got a good laugh (and a great sense of relief) when they told me what it really was. (Needless to say it never actually dialed into the customer site let alone deleted any data or other files.)
 
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Old 06-27-2011, 02:11 PM   #27
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Hi,

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What does this thread have to do with GNU/Linux (as the title suggests)?
Professionalism traits while using Gnu/Linux. Extractions from Linux practical joke thus I created this thread.

Professionalism, ethics and morality are not restricted to Gnu/Linux. Original discussion was for practical jokes using Gnu/Linux, I find this objectionable. Bad enough we have to rid ourselves of a hacker hat. So why contribute to it by sharing poor habits or jokes.
 
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Old 06-27-2011, 02:12 PM   #28
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Your rights to extract or edit out of this thread. Quotes for your posts will remain within my posts.
I strongly(!!) object to that and ask you to remove them. Another option: Re-join the threads and I restore my replies.

Again: This has become a completely different thread, different title and different context.

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Another professional presentation. You stated the drift and desire to re-track.
I said I had spend enough time on this!! A clear indication that I was done.

Incredible!
 
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Old 06-27-2011, 02:14 PM   #29
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Wow - come back on Monday to find a severe spoilsport link in the original thread.

I don't think anyone in that thread suggested they spend all day every day doing practical jokes. A few jokes are harmless enough. At one company back when everything was dial up they even had a practical joke script they'd put in someone's .profile after they'd been there for a week.

On login it would tell you that it was dialing into one of the most important customer's sites and ask if you wanted to proceed. No matter what you typed it would say "OK dialing in." It would then ask if you were sure you wanted to remove the customer's data files and again no matter what you typed it would tell you it was proceeding. It would continue to do more and more destructive actions each time presenting you with a question about continuing. While it was a funny practical joke it was also a good indicator of whether new employees would blindly destroy a customer site rather than asking for help. It didn't bother me to be the target of it and I got a good laugh (and a great sense of relief) when they told me what it really was. (Needless to say it never actually dialed into the customer site let alone deleted any data or other files.)
Careful, you might get the thread closed with all this talk of unprofessional behavior in the workplace. :P
 
Old 06-27-2011, 02:16 PM   #30
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Hi,

Your attitude is obvious!

Team players will do everything to elevate the team. If you think joviality or humor is warranted in a professional atmosphere you are sadly mistaken. Communication among professionals does not require humor nor should humor be a controlling factor. Sure communications tense can be lighter among members.

Productive members will strive to produce professional attitudes that reflect on the team not shine back on one self. Sure it's nice to have an individual acknowledgments but that should not be the individual goal.

I see no problem with casual Fridays or the like but that in itself should not control production. Personally the style of dress or whimsical actions should not cause things to drift from the defined goals.

So your reflections of the managers are from a personnel perspective. Your simplistic reflection is absurd! Not all administrators/managers sit in an office thinking of ways to make your day miserable or think of ways to take something away that really was not yours to begin with.

Grow Up, you are working for someone else for pay. If you do not like the ways things are managed or administered then move on. I'm sure with your attitude a job can be found somewhere doing something. But if your reflections or attitude are as you present them here then I am sure a good reference would be forthcoming from your former employer.

All I can say is that working for you must be the most miserable, soul destroying work experience one could have. In every company I have come across where some pompous po-faced killjoy bigs themselves up by using their position of authority to shove their own lack of personality down other peoples throats, that company has been struggling to maintain "morale" and wondering why.

A company run by humans with personality and yes humour never has to even use the word "morale".

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