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onebuck 06-24-2011 06:41 PM

Professionalism & Gnu/Linux
 
Extracted from: [SOLVED] Linux practical joke
Hi,

Here's a nice one: If you have time to play tricks on my dime then it's time for you to hit the bricks or magic words; 'You are fired!'.

Jobs here in the U.S.A. are precious. That is if you have one or even able to find one.
:hattip:

baldy3105 06-26-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by onebuck (Post 4394989)
Hi,

Here's a nice one: If you have time to play tricks on my dime then it's time for you to hit the bricks or magic words; 'You are fired!'.

Jobs here in the U.S.A. are precious. That is if you have one or even able to find one.
:hattip:

Here's another one, "If you've got your head jammed so far up your backside, I don't want to work for you anyway."

Get a sense of humour why don't you...

onebuck 06-26-2011 11:29 AM

Hi,

I do have a sense of humor. It's just that people need to be responsible and live up to it.

As to your poor sense of humor for 'Here's another one, "If you've got your head jammed so far up your backside, I don't want to work for you anyway."' actually shows your demeanor. You would never have gotten an interview for any position within my organization.

Poor morality and ethics shines through therefore file thirteen for your resume!

druuna 06-26-2011 12:06 PM

EDIT: Original content removed.

Not the original thread I replied to and not the general context in which I placed my replies (or want to be quoted).

See the original thread: Linux practical joke

onebuck 06-26-2011 12:23 PM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by druuna (Post 4396228)
Hi,
I do hope this is a case of wrong side of the bed......

No-one works 8 x 60 minutes (or more), taking short breaks is even considered healthy. Playing a practical joke, which might or might not include a computer, on someone every so often only strengthens team spirit and might even break the possible tension a bit.

Glad to know that jobs in the rest of the world aren't ;)

Isn't that a bit presumptuous/condescending?

Come on onebuck!

I disagree that one needs practical jokes to strengthen team spirit. Cohesion is built on individual contributions to the team therefore positive interaction between members will surpass immature practical jokes.

No intention of singularities as to the job perspectives. I speak of personal experiences here and not leaving the U.S.A for decades. No harm intended or condescending but just from my perspective. As you are stating an opinion so am I.
:hattip:

H_TeXMeX_H 06-26-2011 12:29 PM

Jokes are ok just as long as they do not harm or take a long time to clean up.

The desktop screenshot one should work on systems that have desktop icons (not my system).

szboardstretcher 06-27-2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by onebuck (Post 4396244)
Hi,

I disagree that one needs practical jokes to strengthen team spirit. Cohesion is built on individual contributions to the team therefore positive interaction between members will surpass immature practical jokes.

(Below post is half serious/half joke)

I believe I read that quote in the "Needlessly long run-on sentences and how to apply them to business, so no-one ever knows that you don't know what you are talking about: Second Edition."

To the pointy haired boss:

You are the type of manager that people go home and complain about -- because you *Have NO Clue* what people need or crave, to be truly productive, happy and fulfilled at a job. You probably think that wearing jeans and tee-shirts have some sort of effect on sales. You probably think that people shouldn't use their vacation time or personal time, because "Hey, I NEVER get sick, why should you?" Ill bet you make your employees go to town hall meetings, and pre-meetings all week. No one is allowed to have plastic plants, or dilbert cartoons festooning their cubicles.

Managers, in general, especially supervisors, sit on their rear all week. Then at the end of the week, while sitting in their windowed corner office, when they realize they have to go to yet another status meeting and tell everyone what they did all week, they will make up a rule, like: "No one is allowed to wear hawaiian shirts on hawaiian shirt friday because it is distracting to others," just before they walk in to the meeting. And the company pays them for it: "Good job. Attaboy. Get that implemented immediately!" So managers work about 5 minutes a week and get commended for it.

I, on the other hand, work an average of 50 hours a week, get paid for 40, and have to sit in a grey walled cubicle, with grey floors, grey ceilings, grey desks, in the dim corner with no window and no air con and have to show what I've been working on in a big chart, broken down into 5 minute intervals for the last 2 years, with handouts broken into chapters by month, explaining whether the forecasted income from this ongoing project will continue to be greater than the expense budget for it. And every week or two, managers and supervisors take another nice thing away -- no shorts, no tee-shirts, no practical jokes, no funny wallpapers, no dilbert cartoons, no plastic trees et al.

If we could get managers to understand that we enjoy variety and jokes and play -- we would reward them with a better attitude and performance.

Im sure that this thread is off-topic enough to be shut down now. I was just looking to lighten up someones day a little by telling a funny situation. Sorry everyone.

onebuck 06-27-2011 10:03 AM

Hi,

Your attitude is obvious!

Team players will do everything to elevate the team. If you think joviality or humor is warranted in a professional atmosphere you are sadly mistaken. Communication among professionals does not require humor nor should humor be a controlling factor. Sure communications tense can be lighter among members.

Productive members will strive to produce professional attitudes that reflect on the team not shine back on one self. Sure it's nice to have an individual acknowledgments but that should not be the individual goal.

I see no problem with casual Fridays or the like but that in itself should not control production. Personally the style of dress or whimsical actions should not cause things to drift from the defined goals.

So your reflections of the managers are from a personnel perspective. Your simplistic reflection is absurd! Not all administrators/managers sit in an office thinking of ways to make your day miserable or think of ways to take something away that really was not yours to begin with.

Grow Up, you are working for someone else for pay. If you do not like the ways things are managed or administered then move on. I'm sure with your attitude a job can be found somewhere doing something. But if your reflections or attitude are as you present them here then I am sure a good reference would be forthcoming from your former employer.

szboardstretcher 06-27-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by onebuck (Post 4396934)
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If you think joviality or humor is warranted in a professional atmosphere you are completely correct. You couldn't be more right in that analysis. Thank you for setting me straight.

You are welcome. I know it is hard being a manager and having the Machiavelli complex because you misunderstood "The Prince" as a howto rather than the satire it was.

Quote:

Your simplistic reflection is amazing! All administrators/managers sit in an office thinking of ways to make your day miserable or think of ways to take your things away. In fact, I'm sitting in my office, reading LinuxQuestions when I should be working, just to come up with new ways to torture my employees!
Yes they do, I've read every "Dilbert" comic that there is, and it assures me that they do. I would be careful about that, you don't want to get caught surfing the internet at work by the CEO's, because the amount of electricity the internet uses is fairly high.

Quote:

I will do my best to Grow Up and stop talking like a manager, and attempt to talk like a regular citizen. I understand you are working for someone else for pay, but someday you will probably own a company of your own, because you do not like the ways things are managed or administered and its time to move on. I'm sure with your excellent attitude a great fortune lies ahead of you. I hope to some day fix my attitudes so that I may work at your company.
Good for you. I hope everything turns out well.

Happy travels!

(On a serious note, I am opting out of the rest of this conversation as I have let it get out of control, which I apologize for. But I would rather spend my time answering questions and helping out, than arguing against opinion. Thank you.)

onebuck 06-27-2011 11:09 AM

Hi,

Your mangling of quotes surely shows your attitude!

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I am speaking as a moderator now. You should not mangle or misquote to show viewpoints. 'Quote' is just that, valid representation of material that you are either for or against with a written view. Do not mangle, misquote or present material in a poor representation.

Do not do it again! You will suffer infractions from moderators, myself included.
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As I stated before your positions are not constructive nor beneficial to anyone concerning viewpoints for positive employee attitudes. Satirical may work for a sitcom or liberal commutator but will not benefit someone who must work within a professional team environment.

Your skew shows a poor employee attitude! Not professional at all.

brianL 06-27-2011 11:22 AM

Gary, you are in danger of losing your Slack! Remember what "Bob" says in The Book Of The SubGenius?
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**** 'em if they can't take a joke!

replica9000 06-27-2011 11:23 AM

Everyone needs a little humor to relieve tension in the work place. Even in strict workplace environments it's usually tolerated as long as it doesn't disrupt work, or cause injury. One minute of downtime isn't going to be disruptive, as long as it doesn't become a habit to goof off every five minutes. Keep in mind I say tolerated as management doesn't want it's employees to feel at liberty to just goof off whenever, but realize their employees are not robots. You will find in a professional environment that not only do managers disapprove of someone always goofing off, but most other fellow employees will also become annoyed with such a person.

What is tolerated and how much will always depend on the type of work and size of the company.

onebuck 06-27-2011 11:37 AM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 4397034)
Gary, you are in danger of losing your Slack! Remember what "Bob" says in The Book Of The SubGenius?

brianL: I'm not worried. What you see is what you get!

Professionalism is as important to me as is ethics and morality. All have relationship to each other. Sadly too many have slipped to become the norm.

Administrator/managers that encourage a professional environment will succeed whenever guidelines are provided to their members so as to provide competent successful professional employees.

druuna 06-27-2011 11:37 AM

EDIT: Original content removed.

Not the original thread I replied to and not the general context in which I placed my replies (or want to be quoted).

See the original thread: Linux practical joke

frieza 06-27-2011 11:54 AM

reminds me of a story my mom told me about a time she used to work at a company called Woodward governor in Rockford, IL
forget exactly what she did there, but one of the engineers rigged a toy spider on a wire to dangle in front of her when she sat at her desk (that was not the only thing he did, but the most notable, he was known for small pranks here and there)

I would have to agree that one shouldn't go overboard with pranks in a work environment, but IMHO a little bit of humor in good taste can go a long way to promote team spirit and boost morale, thus in the short term it might hinder a bit of productivity, but the increase in morale could improve it in the long run.

Ever seen 9-5? it showed the difference between a sterile work environment where employees weren't even allowed to have personal effects at their desks vs one where there was a bit more of a relaxed attitude towards such and the latter worked better.


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