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Old 03-28-2005, 08:16 PM   #16
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well you installed suSE linux right?
you can modify suse and install the basic packages but suse is still going to be a little more sluggish then other distros with its bloted gui tools like Yast

In gentoo its just emerge package

I once tryed suse and still see others at my school running servers off of it....alot of people have learned from a distro that does everything for you.....but Suse is still more laggy then others.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 02:34 AM   #17
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The whole idea of renaming the directories isn't as ludicrous as you all seem to think. Although I agree that it is a bad idea as it breaks compatibility, the Gobo Linux distro is a complete GNU/Linux with Windows style directory names (and still be compatible with previous software).
They accomplished this through a custom built kernel patch called Gobo Hide. This acts like the Windows hidden files, they still exist but you can't see them (the kernel has a list of files to hide and blocks them from all apps). So what they did was create the symlinks and then Gobo Hide the original directories, thus keeping compatibility and still changing the names.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 03:53 AM   #18
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One point that noone seems to have yet picked up on is the excessive typing that would be required if all the directories had names like "Program Files". Names like dev, etc, usr are nice and short, it's easy to rattle off a whole lot of commands in the shell when most of your directory names are only three lettters

And yes, you WILL end up using the shell sometime

Stick with linux in it's current form for now. After a year or two* when you have the knowledge required to completely transform your filesystem, see if you think it needs changing, I think you'll be happy with it the way it is though. I'm a noob who's only seriously been using and getting to know linux for a couple of months (but having the occasional poke and prod at it for a few years now) and at first the linux filesystem made no sense to me, but now it makes complete sense and I wouldn't change it - even if I could**

*or 3, 4, 5...

**well, actually "etc" isn't particularly descriptive, but I can live with it.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 04:20 AM   #19
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I second the advice to look at GoboLinux. I understand why people would want to rename those directories, though I view it as useless myself.

Anyway, even if you stay with SuSe, you still can compile your own kernel with the gobohide kernel patch, make the symbolic links you want to have, and use gobohide to hide the real directories, and hide the real "short" paths.

For question 1, I don't advise using Winrar, but then if it is fast enough for you, go for it...

And question 3: in Linux, it already is as you say. No sane filesystem would perform real file deletion for each deleted file. If your filesystem is not fast enough, maybe you did not choose the right one. Myself, I've been very satisfied with ReiserFS for years now.

Yves.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 11:44 AM   #20
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. . . and I suppose you were never a newbie? It is users like you who give *nix a bad name.
Whats the point of u referring Linux as *nix?
I really don't give a shit if I give unix a bad name or if anybody does. I love and respect Linux.
Linux is a standard in itself, far more superior than Unix. Its people like you who give Linux a bad fame. Get over that hangover dude, its been quite a while already that Linux has beaten Unix ass in every respect. Your statement, really insults the spirit of GNU/GPL/Linux and the community as a whole.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 12:27 PM   #21
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Originally posted by evil_empire
Whats the point of u referring Linux as *nix?
I really don't give a shit if I give unix a bad name or if anybody does. I love and respect Linux.
Linux is a standard in itself, far more superior than Unix. Its people like you who give Linux a bad fame. Get over that hangover dude, its been quite a while already that Linux has beaten Unix ass in every respect. Your statement, really insults the spirit of GNU/GPL/Linux and the community as a whole.
I don't really want to get into a massive argument but still it must be pointed out that you assumed he was talking only about Linux. How do you know he wasn't talking about the many BSDs also? You do know that *NIX is a generic term for all UNIXie operating systems, not just the real thing?
I think the spirit of the Linux community is being friendly and helping each other out. It is your bad attitude towards others that insults the spirit of the community.

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Old 03-29-2005, 12:45 PM   #22
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I wasn't showing bad attitude to the original poster. If my words looked harsh, yes I take it back. That was not my intention.
But It was that oversmart *nix dude trying to insult Linux by referring Linux as a Unix by product. That got into my nerve. I dunno, maybe he works for SCO.

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Old 03-29-2005, 12:50 PM   #23
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I don't think he was meaning that at all. Linux is most certainly a *NIX. A *NIX is any OS that resembles UNIX and Linux (along with BSD and MacOS) does. In your post you seem to be implying that UNIX is based on Linux (which we all know is wrong )!
 
Old 03-29-2005, 01:40 PM   #24
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In your post you seem to be implying that UNIX is based on Linux (which we all know is wrong )!
Well, I haven't been bitten by a rabid dog to say so. That is totally your misinterpretation. I am just trying to say Linux in not Unix, of course Linux is(or maybe was) inspired by Unix and resembles it.
 
Old 04-02-2005, 04:25 AM   #25
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Thanks to all of you for enlighting me , it is very much apreciated.
 
Old 04-02-2005, 07:09 AM   #26
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Get use to the linux heirachy and way of doing things. In a month or so you will be ridiculously happy you did. LEARN THE SHELL!!! Did you hear that. LEARN THE SHELL!!! it is very powerfull and you can get stuff done so fast it's amazing. Don't try to make linux like windows. You productivity will suffer in the end for it! Trust me.
 
Old 04-02-2005, 09:28 AM   #27
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it would be very easy to rename the folders.

all gobo linux does is use symlinks

it has /Programs as /bin. and then they simply do a

ln -s /Programs /bin, creating /bin as a symlink to /programs, meaning that any program that wants to put something in /bin actually puts it in programs, but becasue of symnlinking, it has no idea it's doing it.

then they hide the symlinks /bin, /boot, /usr/ /home/ etc so they are not viewable in a filemanager, only in a terminal.
 
Old 04-04-2005, 05:13 AM   #28
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Originally posted by evil_empire
oh my gawd!!!
no offence plzzz, but you're not ready for linux yet!!! you simply don't understand the difference.
stay with window$
and oh, wish u lot of bsods
Shame on you...
What do you mean not ready 4 linux???? half the ppl here didint think b4 trying linux.... Y should you be ready??? it is a _REVOLUTION_
Are you saying you were... born knowing the difference between win and linux?????

People like you give linux its hackerish name
 
Old 04-04-2005, 06:18 AM   #29
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Sticky notes

I just put sticky notes on my screen {software version} which reminds me of keys things. I admit , its not eye candy but when you have more than one virtual screen at your disposal who cares Perhaps you could incorporate the linux structure into a wallpaper which would be viewable by users?
I agree with the general concensus that renaming the directories would be a bad idea.
Good luck in what you decide to do.
 
Old 04-04-2005, 11:42 AM   #30
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Originally posted by JediMasterTux
Shame on you...
What do you mean not ready 4 linux???? half the ppl here didint think b4 trying linux.... Y should you be ready??? it is a _REVOLUTION_
Are you saying you were... born knowing the difference between win and linux?????

People like you give linux its hackerish name
what a piece of crap? didn't u read all the discussion here? If u did, you should know everybody knows linux is a revolution, you're not the only smart one.
I never said I was born knowing the difference but looks like you are trying to say you knew the difference when you were inside in the womb.

So shame on you on your carelessness.

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