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Old 06-21-2002, 10:09 PM   #1
banelion
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redhat 7.3 sucks


first time linux user with rehat7.3, and it is crap

it runs fine in the console, but so does msdos.

im downloading suse and debian to see if i can find something good, but i cant use rh, it takes 10 seconds to load mozilla or netscape on a P3 450 with 256mb ram. winxp wipes the floor with it.

now that im done complaining, is there any way to disable all the crap in rh x windows?

thx,

james
 
Old 06-22-2002, 09:49 AM   #2
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I found RH and Mandrake to be much like you said, switched to Slackware 8.1 with XFS filesystem and couldn't be happier, no more long waits, but be prepared to do some manual setting up of devices, not all auto like RH.
 
Old 06-22-2002, 03:12 PM   #3
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There is definately some serious system overhead with the GUIs in Linux. I suspect that the optimizations of the drivers for the video cards is not at a level we have come to expect from Windows OSs.
But, all in good time...
 
Old 06-22-2002, 09:05 PM   #4
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Funny thing is I installed the nvidia drivers under mandrake and redhat and made sure there were no conflicts, and GL games on both Distribs were grainy (pixelated) not real bad but noticable, installed the same drivers on slackware 8.1 and its (after a bit of tweaking) perfect......

I think there is a lot of hidden (or hard to find) stuff in RH and Mandrake esp. for video which allows a good range of compatability but maybe reduces the quality of individual video cards if you install specific drivers.
 
Old 06-22-2002, 09:42 PM   #5
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Loading any NetZilla(Netscape/Mozilla) browser is slow not just in linux. Loading these browsers takes ages in Windows also. In windows only if we use a quick launcher that resides in the memory ( eating up about 21M of memory), that NetZilla loads faster. No point in blaming RH for it. ( I am not much of a RH fan).

Agreed some desktops are sluggish on older systems. But try some fine destops like FluxBox. I am sure the general application loading time will improve.
 
Old 06-22-2002, 10:37 PM   #6
rsaylor
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I like Redhat 7.3, but the GUI does take about 10 seconds on my 1.13 Ghz laptop to start. Other then the mouse jumping every once in a while it looks pretty good.
 
Old 06-23-2002, 04:16 PM   #7
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....first time linux user with rehat7.3, and it is crap...

Very descriptive!! (I bought new mercedes S600 and crashed it. It totally sucks, looking for a new car -- so people don't buy mercedes cars)

???
Man you better get new windoze, Linux isn't for you
 
Old 06-23-2002, 08:24 PM   #8
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wtf??? wtf...
 
Old 06-23-2002, 09:57 PM   #9
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Actually I loaded 7.3 on my roomates athlon machine, runs like a champ.. I think its the best Redhat release since 6.2...
 
Old 06-24-2002, 12:12 AM   #10
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noerr, i like other distros, just think redhat is bloated
 
Old 06-24-2002, 12:17 AM   #11
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I like slackware the best (use slackware 8.1 at home), but I found it helpfull to test the waters with mandrake and reshat first, kinda introduction to linux distros
 
Old 06-24-2002, 02:27 AM   #12
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hm? well i don't know. i think valhalla is not too shabby. but i think the problem is more X than that of any distro in particular. and of course, the video drivers. if you find that it takes too long to load a windows manager, switch to a lighter one like blackbox or windowmaker. they're quite good really. and it takes about 3 seconds for the windows manager to start.
 
Old 06-25-2002, 03:37 AM   #13
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banelion
rather tell us what exactly is bothering you, instead of plain conclussion such as yours
 
Old 06-25-2002, 03:28 PM   #14
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get the point, you are not exactally going to buy the next redhat upgrade

i have sucess with some distro,s, and unsuccesfull with others.i was able to downloaded , burn to disk, and install, mandrake 8..2, red hat 7.2 and upgrade with 7.3. installed slackware 8.0, and have installed turbo linux 7. was unable to get derbian installed, network card thing i believe, yellow dog, and asp linux.

i now run red hat 7.3 and suse 8, i like both, but got to give the honors to suse 8.i seem to have less problems with suse , such as making files,better sound drivers. maybe i will change my mind as i progress more into these systems.

slackware is very stable, and if you want to really learn the basics of linux , this system is it as for leaning goes.
 
Old 06-26-2002, 12:10 AM   #15
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Cool to make RH7.3 fast

Sometimes, the kernel does not recognize all of your memory (RAM). You can check this with the
following command:
cat /proc/meminfo
Find out if the displayed quantity is the same as the known amount of RAM in your system. If they
are not equal, add the following line to the /boot/grub/grub.conf or /etc/lilo.conf file
(depending on the boot loader you installed:
append="mem=xxM"
Replace xx with the amount of RAM you have in megabytes. Remember that per-image append lines
completely overwrite the global append line. It might be worth adding this to the per-image descrip-tions,
as shown in this example:
append="hdd=ide-scsi mem=128M"
In /boot/grub/grub.conf, the above example would look similar to the following:
#NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that
# all kernel paths are relative to /boot/
default=0
timeout=30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title Red Hat Linux (2.4.6-2)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.2.6-2 ro root=/dev/hda3
append="mem=128M"
Once you reboot, the changes made to grub.conf will be reflected on your system.
In /etc/lilo.conf, the above example would look similar to the following:
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
label=linux
root=/dev/sda1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
read-only
append="mem=128M"
Remember to run /sbin/lilo -v after changing /etc/lilo.conf.
Note that you can also produce the same effect by actually passing this option when you are specifying
the label/image to use in GRUBor LILO. For example if you had a label named linux, at the boot loader
menu you could type
linux mem= xxM
Remember to replace xx with the amount of RAM in your system.
 
  


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