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Old 01-20-2002, 03:29 PM   #1
JoeLinux
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Angry Is there a land where inconsistencies dont live?


Well, that is annoying. I just got finished perusing through the rc.d folder in Slackware, and, in the rc.M script, it started inetd. Well, I don't want inetd to start. My machine is a piece. So, I went to rc.M, and commented out the inetd lines. I expected it to not start. Well, I was wrong. I rebooted, and, oh look! It started. So, I decides to go looking around. I finally figure out that inetd starts in rc.inet2. Well, WHY, and I say WHY again, was inetd started in rc.inet2, AND rc.M. These people developed Slackware, and yet to confuse us, they start it in 2 places. And, since I'm sure this argument seems weak at the moment, sendmail started in 2 places, inet2 and rc.M. Also, Samba, starts in THREE places. All different. Is there any distro out there that doesn't do this? The incosistent file interaction is driving me nuts. This is the kinda thing that people are afraid of in Linux. File interaction inconsistencies. Turn it off here. but WAIT! It's there and THERE TOO!

Is there a distro that doesn't do this? It's infuriating.

by the way, i dont know if i spell inconsistencies right. I'll presume that i didnt.
 
Old 01-21-2002, 02:39 PM   #2
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Honestly, although Slack is my favorite distro, when I started using it and commenting out daemons, found this frustrating. When I install Slack, the first thing I have to do is go through every rc script, comment out and change code. It's a pain in the arse yeah! But I just dealt with the fact that the BSD lpr starts in two places etc.. and let it be. I don't recall seeing inetd in rc.M but if you comment it out in inet2 only it shouldn't start. Likewise, if you let inet2 start inetd, you can edit /etc/inetd and comment out the samba and nfs starts. I think every distro has a quirk in some way or another, and that you'll find something in all of them. I'm using RH for now, although Slack is calling me back, and RH has it's DEFINITE pissers! I must say that I do like Slack's BSD init style as opposed to sysV. Just try them all if you have to...
 
Old 01-21-2002, 02:48 PM   #3
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good old memories, now i remember why I stopped using any regular distro's. Can never figure out how things are done. It also seems to change from version to version if somebody else started maintaining some part of the distribution

Only one answer: if you really want to be happy check out http://www.linuxfromscratch.org

Basically, you're the boss and you setup your system the way you like it.
 
Old 01-22-2002, 04:12 PM   #4
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*shudder*

I had this feeling that LFS would be brought up. I'm still kind of afraid of it. But, I'll give it a whirl...eventually. I'm still pretty happy with Slack 8. It's the firt fully functioning system I have ever had, except for my damn CD-ROM drive, which I'll have to post about
 
Old 01-22-2002, 10:56 PM   #5
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Re: *shudder*

Quote:
Originally posted by JoeLinux
I had this feeling that LFS would be brought up. I'm still kind of afraid of it. But, I'll give it a whirl...eventually. I'm still pretty happy with Slack 8. It's the firt fully functioning system I have ever had, except for my damn CD-ROM drive, which I'll have to post about
What are you afraid of? I know it can seem daunting (you should see me when I first started writing the lfs-book. I had no guidelines whatsoever to go by; it was stressful at times. At one time I actually simply gave up on the whole idea. It wasn't until 6 months later that my wife convinced me to give it another try. Glad she did...)

anyways, perhaps your fear is ungrounded that's often caused by not knowing exactly what you're getting into. I think I can help in that department by addressing your fears (well fears is a strong word I know).
 
Old 01-27-2002, 05:34 PM   #6
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Unhappy Hmm..

Mainly I'm just afraid of the fact that I don't know THAT much about Linux (took me a 3 times to get Gentoo running right). I always seem to mess up one little thing, here of there. I'll probably gimp over a LFS install.
 
  


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