Not at all, understood

It was with SCO (Santa Cruz Operation) and Novell before that:
(from wikipedia)

And, of course, the larger firms, like HP, SUN and IBM had for some time their own "Unix" going (HP-UX, Sun OS/Solaris cq AIX). I started with HP-UX in 1987, when the trademark was still with AT&T, but HP-UX already was its own "System V" derived Unix.

The VAX-port was VM, and System V (the later commercial version from AT&T) most certainly was too.
Of course the original PDP-11 version wasn't because that computer didn't have Virtual Memory capabilities.

Yes, sounds right. I did not bother to look up the details. :-)

We did our computer science programming assignments (Lisp and Clu) on PDP-11-70s, and used line printers to print them out to turn in. Curiously enough, my first job out of school involved using Norsk Data 16-bit "mini-computers" running Unix. Even back then there were "variants" because architectures were vastly different. IO sub-systems were very different across manufacturers as were memory management units, interrupt controllers, etc. And C was less "standard" then as well. I believe that there was no ANSI C in 1983. So, notwithstanding the language porting there was code change to reflect differences and limitations of the overall computer hardware architecture.

Now I'm feeling nostalgic. In those days I did enjoy getting into the nitty gritty. Well, that was my job. Now I draw cartoons to explain concepts to executives who are pulling down compensation in the 8 figures. And they yell at me "ONE SLIDE...! YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONVEY YOUR THOUGHTS IN ONE SLIDE...!!!" Sigh.

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Ubuntu works while Manjaro is eye candy that doesn't work with 99%+ of the community are horrible and liars. Manjaro is good for those that want to fix what is broken and for liars that will feel at home with it.

At Distrowatch, where several hundred users have posted their mini-reviews and ratings, Ubuntu scored an average of 7.6 but Manjaro 8.5. Your post is the sort of thing that makes one long for a button on this site to lower reputation!

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Which proves the Manjaro reviewers are lairs.

I have seen no evidence that manjaro community is any worse/better than any other open source community. But if there is it might be because for the most part there is no need to interact with the community. You have all of ArchWiki to sort stuff out. It's so helpful I use it for other non-arch distros as well.

Of course after reading your signature I can see why you wouldn't get along with "Archers"

Well, I installed Manjaro "Official" just to start somewhere. I figured I would go with a bistro that was "easy to use" to avoid the tinkering discussed in this thread.

So far I'm palpably underwhelmed. I've posted some questions on their wiki... can't even get basic things to work on the desktop... really simple features seem to be lacking worse than Ubuntu's desktop environment. And I've read the entire 120+ page PDF user manual.... which isn't very well written.

I'm wondering if I should try a different DE, perhaps KDE. XFCE might be lightweight, but I'm wondering if that matters at all on any laptop even 5 years old. Mine is about 6 years old and performance wasn't a problem even with Windows that came with it.

I'm so disappointed that I am seriously thinking of trying something else tomorrow.

Post#17, and #18 sums up my feelings. I worked at AT&T in the 1970's on real Unix machines. DEC PDP-11/70 was supplying the software at time. We used VTC terminals, and needed to be creative using the 'sh'. Needed to be experienced using the editor 'ed'.
This was way before the blessed 'vi' came along. All of us were in awe of its ability! Pair that with today's myriad of editors.

That's one of my many bad experiences with Manjaro, so I know what you mean. I recommend you give MX Linux a try. https://mxlinux.org/products/

Thank you, Crippled. I'll do that.

This weekend I learned that I can format and read/write to/from an external hard drive formatted with exFAT. So I will reformat one of my two 3TB Western Digital external drives to use exFAT file system. Then I can duplicate my internal mac hard drive to it, using rsync regularly to effectively have a backup without using proprietary Time Machine on macOS.

Then I have time to play with a whole bunch of Linus distros until I find one I like. I have an old DELL laptop running Windows 7. For now I'll keep that. In the worst case, if my iMac dies, I can read all my files from the Western Digital "backup" drive because obviously Windows reads exFAT file systems. :-)

And I have LibreOffice, GIMP, etc. on Windows so I'm not really losing much given that I'm not programming these days so I don't need the Linux environment to be compatible with colleagues' systems.

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Your welcome. Make sure you look at MX Tools and MX Tweak which makes it easier for you.

There was a time I really enjoyed doing work with ed, sed, awk. I think it made me a much better software engineer. But now I'm afraid of sinking too much time in doing stuff even like editing bash scripts. Plus, it's just the editing of the script, it's making sure the commands work. I would have to do a lot of reading before attaching an external hard drive to my Synology router and making it available as an NFS device to my Linux, macOS and Windows machines...! Fun if you have the time, but I don't.

Perhaps I'm missing something, so at the risk of showing my ignorance, I'm wondering why all the various Linux distros can't just use the same system utilities. Different commands, different options on those commands, sheesh.

OK, so write a new window manager. Make a new "theme" for your desktop environment. But is any one of these really so much better than the others that all this man power is wasted? And the result is a whole lot of mediocre systems.

i just received 3 very patronizing, puerile replies on the manjaro forum to my question about how to configure the dock on the desktop. That alone tells me all I need to know. Very disappointing....

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I'm an old SunOS, Solaris, HP-UX, DG-UX (and a few more *NIXes most don't remember - anybody remembering Apollo DomainOS?) user and I prefer Slackware because it simply does the job exactly as it should / exactly as I told it to do.