Anyone have any idea why when I load a fresh install of Fedora 14 on my system that the desktop doesn't load completely? It goes as far as giving me the desktop with a background, the icons and status bar do not appear. I am able to right click and open a konsle terminal but only when I am in KDE (failsafe)

What is weird is initially I had no problem. But when I switched to a different monitor the desktop would not load correctly. I have reinstalled the OS since then and still have the same issue. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Was there a message at startup?

No Message at startup.

I don't know if this helps but maybe.
This was related to desktop icons not showing up.

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Thanks I'll check it out.

Right-click at top of screen may get you the panel.

posting the errors in the logs would help
/var/log/
massages and xorg.0.log and boot.log ....

also the info on the 3d card ( or built in chip if it is a laptop)
laptop or desktop ?
There is a very big difference between the two.
and the driver you are using for it ( whatever "it"- the card is-)

I haven't yet check the logs but will be doing that soon. This is the site with the specs of my video card. http://reviews.cnet.com/graphics-car...-20436253.html

Thanks I will post the log information shortly.

Welcome to [0;34mFedora [0;39m Starting udev: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Setting hostname Nicky.Bigtime: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Setting up Logical Volume Management: 3 logical volume(s) in volume group "vg_nicky" now active [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Checking filesystems /dev/mapper/vg_nicky-lv_root: clean, 258709/3276800 files, 2058846/13107200 blocks /dev/sda1: recovering journal /dev/sda1: clean, 36/128016 files, 45780/512000 blocks /dev/mapper/vg_nicky-lv_home: recovering journal /dev/mapper/vg_nicky-lv_home: clean, 482/3948544 files, 307163/15794176 blocks [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Mounting local filesystems: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Enabling local filesystem quotas: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Enabling /etc/fstab swaps: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Entering non-interactive startup Starting monitoring for VG vg_nicky: 3 logical volume(s) in volume group "vg_nicky" monitored [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] ip6tables: Applying firewall rules: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] iptables: Applying firewall rules: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting capi4linux: udevd-work[499]: kernel-provided name 'capi' and NAME= 'capi20' disagree, please use SYMLINK+= or change the kernel to provide the proper name [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting auditd: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting portreserve: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting system logger: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Enabling p4-clockmod driver (passive cooling only): [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting irqbalance: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting rpcbind: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting mdmonitor: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting system message bus: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Setting network parameters... [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting NetworkManager daemon: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting Avahi daemon... [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting NFS statd: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Initializing OpenCT smart card terminals: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting RPC idmapd: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting cups: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Mounting other filesystems: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting acpi daemon: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting HAL daemon: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Retrigger failed udev events [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting PC/SC smart card daemon (pcscd): [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] ipsec_setup: Starting Openswan IPsec U2.6.29/K2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686... Enabling Bluetooth devices: Starting sshd: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting ntpd: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting sendmail: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting sm-client: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting abrt daemon: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting ksm: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting console mouse services: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting ksmtuned: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting crond: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Enabling monthly Smolt checkin: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting atd: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m] Starting libvirtd daemon: [60G[ [0;32m OK [0;39m]

[ 46.460]
X.Org X Server 1.9.0
Release Date: 2010-08-20
[ 46.460] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[ 46.460] Build Operating System: x86-05 2.6.32-72.el6.bz634452.x86_64
[ 46.460] Current Operating System: Linux Nicky.Bigtime 2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686 #1 SMP Mon Oct 18 23:56:17 UTC 2010 i686
[ 46.461] Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_nicky-lv_root rd_LVM_LV=vg_nicky/lv_root rd_LVM_LV=vg_nicky/lv_swap rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
[ 46.461] Build Date: 13 October 2010 03:29:59PM
[ 46.461] Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.9.0-15.fc14
[ 46.476] Current version of pixman: 0.18.4
[ 46.476] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[ 46.476] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 46.477] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Jan 29 17:05:34 2011
[ 46.534] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 46.534] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 46.594] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
[ 46.594] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[ 46.594] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[ 46.594] (**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[ 46.595] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[ 46.595] (==) Automatically adding devices
[ 46.595] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[ 46.596] (==) FontPath set to:
catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
built-ins
[ 46.596] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[ 46.596] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[ 46.596] (II)
***************************************************************
***************************************************************
** Fedora switched to udev-based device detection with **
** xorg-x11-server-1.7.99.901-1. Custom HAL configuration **
** stored in /etc/hal/fdi/policy will not be seen by this **
** server version. If you have such configuration you will **
** need to update it to the new format. **
** For more information, see the Fedora wiki page **
** https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input..._configuration **
***************************************************************
***************************************************************
[ 46.596] (II) Loader magic: 0x81fac2c
[ 46.596] (II) Module ABI versions:
[ 46.596] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[ 46.596] X.Org Video Driver: 8.0
[ 46.596] X.Org XInput driver : 11.0
[ 46.596] X.Org Server Extension : 4.0
[ 46.601] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:4e45:1002:3002 rev 0, Mem @ 0xf0000000/134217728, 0xff9f0000/65536, I/O @ 0x0000ec00/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
[ 46.602] (--) PCI: (0:1:0:1) 1002:4e65:1002:3003 rev 0, Mem @ 0xe8000000/134217728, 0xff9e0000/65536, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536
[ 46.602] (II) LoadModule: "extmod"
[ 46.606] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
[ 46.618] (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.618] compiled for 1.9.0, module version = 1.0.0
[ 46.618] Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[ 46.618] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[ 46.618] (II) Loading extension SELinux
[ 46.618] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[ 46.618] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[ 46.618] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
[ 46.618] (II) Loading extension DPMS
[ 46.618] (II) Loading extension XVideo
[ 46.618] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[ 46.619] (II) Loading extension X-Resource
[ 46.619] (II) LoadModule: "dbe"
[ 46.619] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
[ 46.632] (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.632] compiled for 1.9.0, module version = 1.0.0
[ 46.632] Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[ 46.632] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[ 46.632] (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[ 46.632] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[ 46.632] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[ 46.666] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.667] compiled for 1.9.0, module version = 1.0.0
[ 46.667] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[ 46.667] (==) AIGLX enabled
[ 46.667] (II) Loading extension GLX
[ 46.667] (II) LoadModule: "record"
[ 46.667] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
[ 46.668] (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.668] compiled for 1.9.0, module version = 1.13.0
[ 46.668] Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[ 46.668] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[ 46.668] (II) Loading extension RECORD
[ 46.668] (II) LoadModule: "dri"
[ 46.668] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
[ 46.688] (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.689] compiled for 1.9.0, module version = 1.0.0
[ 46.689] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[ 46.689] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
[ 46.689] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
[ 46.689] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
[ 46.690] (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.690] compiled for 1.9.0, module version = 1.2.0
[ 46.690] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
[ 46.690] (II) Loading extension DRI2
[ 46.690] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 0
[ 46.690] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 1
[ 46.690] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 2
[ 46.690] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[ 46.690] (II) LoadModule: "ati"
[ 46.691] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so
[ 46.709] (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.709] compiled for 1.8.99.906, module version = 6.13.99
[ 46.710] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[ 46.710] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 8.0
[ 46.710] (II) LoadModule: "radeon"
[ 46.710] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so
[ 46.933] (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.933] compiled for 1.8.99.906, module version = 6.13.99
[ 46.933] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[ 46.933] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 8.0
[ 46.944] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[ 46.945] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[ 46.953] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.953] compiled for 1.8.99.904, module version = 2.3.0
[ 46.953] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[ 46.953] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 8.0
[ 46.953] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[ 46.953] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[ 46.954] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 46.954] compiled for 1.8.99.904, module version = 0.4.1
[ 46.954] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 8.0
[ 46.954] (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets:


continued.....

This is the Xorg.0.log I realized after I posted the first part, that I should of just uploaded the file.

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Xorg.0.log (87.2 KB, 12 views)

for the xorg log did you read it
the (EE) is the errors -- if any

and THERE ARE NO errors in it
just a warning about "falling back" to the vesa driver
finding the radeon card and seting up the radeon card

--------------------------------
a question
when you installed fedora AND KDE
you ALSO left Gnome installed
fedora MUST have most of gnome installed even if you use KDE


so is this a FULL Gnome and KDE install
or just kde
if KDE only and Gnome is not installed there will be problems .

I'm wondering if this may be your problem.
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-linux-857442/

It's fixed. Thank you I appreciate the help. The issue was apparently gnome defaulted my monitor setup to have two monitors. I selected mirror image in both monitors and saved it and now everything is fine. Don't understand why it was setup for two monitors since i only have one. But the problem is fixed. Alt-F2 and switched the settings under monitors. Thanks again.