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Just to be clear, agnostic is not "more scientific". Contrary to popular belief it IS possible to prove a negative. Either think on that or look it up. Then say if it isn't true.
Is theory and "educated" guesses not not but more scientific?!
Last edited by jamison20000e; 10-28-2016 at 05:50 AM.
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Just to be clear, agnostic is not "more scientific". Contrary to popular belief it IS possible to prove a negative. Either think on that or look it up. Then say if it isn't true.
How about agnostic as in "just don't care enough ..."
Any holy-book PhD here? It would really be helpful to read real people, who have studied those religious texts, to answer important questions we have every day instead of just saying "There is/is not a deity above/under us." Since we can not work directly about such being we have to use book material to work with. For example this idea about denied revenge - But HOW can we protect ourselves and others we care if we do not enforce and apply some counter-reaction to anarchy? Do you really expect us to give everything to invisible karma that might happen and might not? Especially because outside TV karma operates very delayed. We might even not see day of justice with our limited lifespan.
Don't confuse personal revenge with legal justice. Every society has rules to stop people injuring their neighbours; those who break them are arrested, tried and punished. Otherwise you just get the tyranny of the strong over the weak.
A large part of the first five books of the Bible is given over to listing rules for the smooth functioning of society. It is made clear in these passages that God is very interested in such matters and that He expects and requires people collectively to try offenders and punish those found guilty rather than simply waiting for Him to do something. But these books also make it plain that the aim of true justice is not simply punishment of the guilty but redress for the victims.
Revenge is a different matter altogether. Revenge is my personal dream of getting even and making my enemy suffer. Such fantasies can quickly come to dominate my life. Ironically that means that my enemy has succeeded in doing me even more harm than he did by his original act. He now governs my every waking moment. Giving up the fantasy of personal vengeance and trusting God to see justice done is often the only way out of this trap.
Ironically there is an inverse relationship between justice and revenge. The less justice there is in society, the more injured people will fall back on dreams of revenge, because that is all they have left.
Because. As all things in life. Things change. Absolutes limit me as I decide what to do next in my life time.
Open mind = open mind.
But> I still hate everyone equally. Just like I love everyone equally.
Depends on my mood at the present moment, and the amount of stress you are causing me.
I don't expect to be special to any airy fairy set of rules made by clique of men though.
Mainly because people are FOSS.
Well, many of the books of the Old Testament basically contain the war history of the Jewish people, as led by their war god, "El." The history oscillates between military victories, in which "God delivered the enemy into their hands" and they proceeded to slaughter every man, woman, child, and animal, and military defeats "because so-and-so did evil in the sight of the LORD."
If that isn't revenge, I don't know what is.
The first part of the Book of Ezra contains an interesting insight into how those people were regarded by their neighbors. When they wanted to go back to rebuild the city of Jerusalem, certain officials petitioned the ruling King for an injunction, and received it, blocking the project completely until that King died.
Because. As all things in life. Things change. Absolutes limit me as I decide what to do next in my life time.
Open mind = open mind.
But> I still hate everyone equally. Just like I love everyone equally.
Depends on my mood at the present moment, and the amount of stress you are causing me.
I don't expect to be special to any airy fairy set of rules made by clique of men though. Mainly because people are FOSS.
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