The world is a slaughterhouse and I cannot see any potential for that to change simply by itself.

And yes, you are behaving like a (still a little funny) troll. You seem to have real problems with religious people, or what seems to be the issue you have with all that? Anyways If you would have problems with religious people by bad experiences, I would not be suprised. 'Christians' in the first place are another earthly interest group, and for the most part just another mob. And I also agree with thew point that was made several times. Christians should'nt press their ideology on 'non-believers' from above, and all to aggressively, plus judging and pushing.

Remember the 'orthodox believers' 2000 years ago also schemed against Jesus to be executed and did so elaboratly and effectively that it happened also. And I bet 'orthodox believers' nowadays are not much better, there would be no reason for it, man hasn't changed any.

@OregeonJim: The argument with brain size is an argument, still it can be that in humans an area or functionality has concurrently evolved better, that aids these superior abilities, like very good developed speech. But for the 'need to worship God', 'conciousness' - we don't at all know positively if the higher or even lower developed animals don't have these features. And that animals have no soul in comparison to human - I doubt that very much.

@topic 'falseprophet' The worst antichrist would surely be in the country with the most powerful army... The pope Franciscus I think is a sensible and positive person from what I read. I doubt the institution pope. But I am not afraid of this guy, I rather trust him as a person.

The bible says the false prophet is those who state Jesus is not the messiah. And I can think of a large interest group that are on the map of world politics right now. (By the way the west is also not good, and altruism in person). I am not saying anymore because that could be seen as propagating religious hate, and I could get myself behaded too, if some true believer of that (proposed) false prophet get's behind me.

PS: By the way, when did you read your creation story the last time?
Light is created
Land in sea
Plants are created
Creatures in the water created
Birds created
Land animals created
Man created

In my view there are but minor inconsistencies between what the Moses says, and what science says nowadays.

I think it is gross and irresponsible to overlook the similarities. If I am looking for argument then I would oversee it.

IMO this poll is moot. Religions are inevitable part of mankind progress, without religions there would be no civilization. All religions serve the same purpose.

"Unimaginable tracks," unimaginable not imaginary.

Religions are a step in evolution one way or another but fairy tails and murder get fairy tails and murder.

You have to put quite a bit of blind faith in a theory that says that nothing exploded for no reason and made everything, and that life evolved out of ammonia and rocks over billions of years. Everybody who's somebody knows that if you combine ammonia and rocks, you just end up with dirty ammonia and clean rocks.

And "I love scary movies so when you die let me know" is pretty rude to say the least, don't you think?

And if you want to bring up "imaginary tracks", let's talk about Lucy. People find bones in the sand scattered over a mile apart, finagle the pieces until they (kind of) fit, and bring it home singing about Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. I mean really...is that the best the religion of "science" has? Who's the false prophet again, praytell? (That's not a rhetorical question, I'd like you to answer that.)
http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner...ails_test.html

I actually agree with that part (I think). Can I use your quote in my sig?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN31FCcUlLk
There is a difference between right and wrong. (Thus the Ten Commandments) A creation is willing to prove it exists, and thus give credit to it's Maker (whether it wants to or not). Why do you think there are so many in the occult? Because something (Satan) is trying to make sure they never find God, or if they do they would never want His offer to save them out of their own crap.

Uh, okay...why does ISIS kill people while Christians try to save them?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pa.../violence.aspx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP6U6Hhy_2M

Every thing from nothing is a stupid theory, "rude" grow up don't be babies; "If we can't say anything and get away with it you're a moron," rewind!

You don't put any faith in theory and educated guesses but religious stories that should fall apart otherwise! :doh: Just don't answer that part of the "maga Thread!" LALALA ;)

I did not say I want Sundialsvcs or anyone to die but we do and if no "disembodied" minds want to let us know when there gone how about telling your "creators?" Oh yeah, because it can't ever be proven and is not theory or educated guesses!! It's not flaky being scarred or enraged but we're evolving so cool.

"I actually agree with that part (I think). Can I use your quote in my sig?" Sure. But; you do realize your fair tales kill and killed the most, right?!

I see a few discussions about the creation however this sometimes focuses solely on the earth when there's an entire universe.

I see discussions about creation of things from nothingness, ... by God.

Well ... where did God come from? What started that existence?

God is the eternal Being - the singular and unique 'first cause' of everything else.

In order for ANYTHING to exist, there must be a first cause. There is no other rational answer. The infinite regression you are eluding to is irrational.

That's not a theory but blind faith in people that told you so, call it money, brain-drugs and power.

Rather than one creator deciding................now,,,,,,,,,,,,,, EVERYTHING has always just drifted like your brains in church.

Your creator must want to die setting in motions such a device?

This just in "god" is killed many eons after humans create with understand things like DNA and space travel... many are saying it planed it's own death by us; oh the humanity!

Sure we know. Take 'self-awareness' as an example. Put a mirror in front of a dog. He will bark at the image, try to attack it, perhaps try to 'get to' the dog on the other side. He has no idea that it is 'him'. This is observable in all animals - except humans.

That will make a good future religion (if it's not:) those who pass god's word that it created us to help end it's endless suffering. L:pL

It is not a theory, nor is it blind faith. It is an axiom. Self-evident.