I'm not sure I follow your reasoning here. Why would a non-believer see God as evidence for Satan?

I find this fascinating as well. People who don't know much about Islam will never see the significance. Thousands are accepting Jesus unexplicably, mostly in the Middle East but also Europe and the U.S., and that means they are immediately cast out of their families (if their brothers don't kill them first), and are in constant danger of beheading. Furthermore, the mass exodus of 'peaceful' Muslims into Europe is leaving the Middle East filled with mostly radical jihadists, while at the same time collapsing the European economic system by overburdening it, setting the stage for prophetic events.

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No, the other way around. Satan will happily flaunt his power. If he exists, so does his Maker.
Yes, they will be persecuted. Yes, ISIS is conquering Europe. I don't see what your point is though. It seems you are confused about prophecy, maybe some of these can help clear the air.

Oh, I'm not confused at all about prophecy. In fact, your own links (esp. the latest with Don Stewart - I've linked to that before) are very good. Here are a couple more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5OE_HlExw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeRy1_MCEYs

These guys also have Don Stewart as a guest quite often, as does Greg Laurie and others.

Don't fear their the reaper.

You misattributed the question to me, can you fix that please? Thanks.


That's what it seems like you are saying here:


Okay, so you consider both Intelligent Design and Evolution to be pseudo-science, correct?

Sorry, cut/paste error. I've corrected it. Thanks.


Correct. My earlier quote was prior to making the distinction between "genuine" science and "pseudo" science.

Both intelligent design and evolution share a dependence upon presuppositions that cannot be answered by science. Further, the indoctrination of evolution throughout the schools is a dishonest enterprise in that it does not teach about these presuppositions - instead, it falsely declares the conclusions as "scientific fact".

Fact, faith(.)

The Grim Reaper will collect us all, I think of him almost every day.

These two Psalms say everything about evolution and eternal hell (maybe, only maybe, that's a little exaggerated).

PSALM 103 Bless the Lord, O my soul,
And all that is within me, bless His holy name.
2 Bless the Lord, O my soul,
And forget none of His benefits;
3 Who pardons all your iniquities,
Who heals all your diseases;
4 Who redeems your life from the pit,
Who crowns you with lovingkindness and compassion;
5 Who satisfies your years with good things,
So that your youth is renewed like the eagle.

6 The Lord performs righteous deeds
And judgments for all who are oppressed.
7 He made known His ways to Moses,
His acts to the sons of Israel.
8 The Lord is compassionate and gracious,
Slow to anger and abounding in lovingkindness.
9 He will not always strive with us,
Nor will He keep His anger forever.
10 He has not dealt with us according to our sins,
Nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
11 For as high as the heavens are above the earth,
So great is His lovingkindness toward those who fear Him.
12 As far as the east is from the west,
So far has He removed our transgressions from us.
13 Just as a father has compassion on his children,
So the Lord has compassion on those who fear Him.
14 For He Himself knows our frame;
He is mindful that we are but dust.

15 As for man, his days are like grass;
As a flower of the field, so he flourishes.
16 When the wind has passed over it, it is no more,
And its place acknowledges it no longer.
17 But the lovingkindness of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting on those who [f]fear Him,
And His righteousness to children’s children,
18 To those who keep His covenant
And remember His precepts to do them.

19 The Lord has established His throne in the heavens,
And His sovereignty rules over all.
20 Bless the Lord, you His angels,
Mighty in strength, who perform His word,
Obeying the voice of His word!
21 Bless the Lord, all you His hosts,
You who serve Him, doing His will.
22 Bless the Lord, all you works of His,
In all places of His dominion;
Bless the Lord, O my soul!

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PSALM 90 Lord, You have been our dwelling place in all generations.
2 Before the mountains were born
[c]Or You gave birth to the earth and the world,
Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.

3 You turn man back into dust
And say, “Return, O children of men.”
4 For a thousand years in Your sight
Are like yesterday when it passes by,
[d]Or as a watch in the night.
5 You have swept them away like a flood, they fall asleep;
In the morning they are like grass which sprouts anew.
6 In the morning it flourishes and sprouts anew;
Toward evening it fades and withers away.

7 For we have been consumed by Your anger
And by Your wrath we have been dismayed.
8 You have placed our iniquities before You,
Our secret sins in the light of Your presence.
9 For all our days have declined in Your fury;
We have finished our years like a sigh.
10 As for the days of our life, they contain seventy years,
Or if due to strength, eighty years,
Yet their pride is but labor and sorrow;
For soon it is gone and we fly away.
11 Who understands the power of Your anger
And Your fury, according to the fear that is due You?
12 So teach us to number our days,
That we may present to You a heart of wisdom.

13 Do return, O Lord; how long will it be?
And be sorry for Your servants.
14 O satisfy us in the morning with Your lovingkindness,
That we may sing for joy and be glad all our days.
15 Make us glad according to the days You have afflicted us,
And the years we have seen evil.
16 Let Your work appear to Your servants
And Your majesty to their children.
17 Let the favor of the Lord our God be upon us;
And confirm for us the work of our hands;
Yes, confirm the work of our hands.

By the way the pope said, Evolution can be true:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/reli...istianity.html

So please all the christian traditionalists, is it neccessary to focus on that? Is that an important point?

PSALM 131 O Lord, my heart is not proud, nor my eyes haughty;
Nor do I involve myself in great matters,
Or in things too difficult for me.
2 Surely I have composed and quieted my soul;
Like a weaned child rests against his mother,
My soul is like a weaned child within me.
3 O Israel, hope in the Lord
From this time forth and forever.

In the worst case christians might even chase people away from God with petty discussions. But that is not the point. That's alright too, God can write straight, too on winding ways.

Like Bonhoeffer said:
"I believe, that even our mistakes and errors are not in vain,
and that it is God not more difficult to cope with them,
as with our supposed good deeds."

Greetings from alberich, a real bad guy.

The only 'importance' is that it aligns perfectly with Biblical prophecy.

2Tim 4:3-4 - "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."

The pope is also working overtime to unite all the religions (including Islam) into a 'one-world religion'. And, he's injecting his hand into world politics - pressing for a 'one-world government' in the name of 'peace'. Two more checkboxes soon to be ticked, though we won't be here to do it - the unbelievers will have to figure it out on their own at that point, unfortunately.

All or none: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_text or all for one x 7,000,000,000! ;)

Where is the prophecy stating that earth was created is six solar days? But I must admit I am not all to interested in the answer, no offense intended, there is more importent problems for me in my faith life or all day life. I also do not agree that God said the earth was created in six days. All I know is that Moses is supposed to have written that down.

Whatever, I am no big fan of catholicism, the pope nor of american evangelicals, and neither of any human movement. Humans are foremost dumb sheep in my eyes, and bad news. Though still somewhat nice or amiable (if you're tough).

A lot will happen (as always), that we will be very happy to have no further part in, I'm sure. And I don't trust popes or the U.S. will play the best roles in it.

But still the pope is probably quite educated.

Another thing is the little bones that whales and big snakes posses, that seem to have been hind legs, and quite a lot of other circumstancial evidence, like not-missing missing links, gen-pool. And so on.

All the creationalists in my opinion might bark against the wrong tree.

Don't we all suffer from superior attitude, hybris? I do sometimes, and in my opinion that is sometimes the actual fuel for these discussions rather than the stated or any actually constructive motivations.

I agree with you there.

Yes, that's just what we are, we will bend things if we get in a position that others might buy that from us, we also bend truth or justice so that we can make ourselves more comfortable. Also on cost of right, or of others or of truth.

That applies to hundreds of points. I am just not sure if it fits for evolution theory. Evolution theory is something interesting but unimportant for me. If someone says the first life formed accidentaly, and space and time formed accidentaly without help from God and God doesn't exist. Then I will consider that untrue, lie or error.

I see God as the cause of these processes. I hold it unplausible that something living creates itself by chance out of something not living. Without help from God. That is the point for me.

Also I saw this cat video today, that convinced me once again, that human is above animal only by quantity, not by quality. Or the quantity of the brain is so much above the anmimal that only by that he becomes a new quality. But other than that it is rather a difference in quantity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4KVoEVcr0 Another pro for relatedness animal/cat/ape-human.

A better point for me is homosexuality for that verse. The old testament states clearly it's an abhorrence to God, and I am with the scripture here, I cannot see any sane cause why this should be an error or falsification in the scripture. And this is for sure totally political uncorrect nowadays. In Germany for sure. But I must add that I personally think it is also unnatural, bizzare, nonsense, I don't get it (apart from that women most probably will get severly on your nerves (or for women most probably: men), at one point). Anyways I am sure that God expects not from one human to judge the other. And that will be what happens most. God expects us to judge ourselves. And regard the other person higher than ourselves. And I suppose also if they practise Homosexuality. What I think is ridiculous is that these guys want to be married too in the church or something. Bizzare.

Whatever I am not above that. I have own very severe ethical problems of my own and my own bahaviour, and that is my problem, not if others do something I (or even God) consider erroneous.

By the way the scripture states homosexuality punishable by death, same as for adultery. (By the way I would be dead since many dozens of years already for many things and many, many times.)

Remeber the story how Jesus spoke up to save the adulteress from stoning? How he wrote in the sand? How I wonder what he wrote. I bet he had a good reason to love and save the woman, and I bet it means something, also in this context.

@jamison20000e, don't take this the wrong way, but sometimes what you post just makes no sense whatsoever. If what you're saying isn't immediately obvious, you should clarify. Just sayin'.