You know, apparantly Windows violates it's own EULA... Something about advertising or something...
I'm gonna try and find just where in hte mountain of paper I wrote down where it said that...

aha!
Now, can anyone prove or disprove this theory?

Please, elaborate..

Sounds like the fallback plan if MS's DRM suicide attempt fails, sue themselves into extinction for breach of the EULA

Microsoft is already falling from the downfall of windows vista

I think both of them are good. It really depends which one gives you what you need and which works best for you


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While that sounds good in theory, I have not seen many people in situations where the "microsoft experience" what they need. The closest I have seen is that they feel they need something from a third party and it is available only on microsoft.

AN Excellent A-grade post! *applaus*
you've just brought countless of ppl's opinions to the surface(including my own) regarding Microsuck

someone wrote :
That would be the last thing anybody would need.
Hell NO , We do NOt need such an entity!
what the computer world wants is that Bill gates and "henchmen" take their hands of the users throat and stop this insane monopoly that causes only disasters one after the other.

When we look on the timeline of IT , we realize that Microsoft's role has always been a negative and a disruptive one , since Bill gates idealogy summarizes in : " any conduct/approach/scheme which would gain me profit has to be introduced regardless of how technically correct it's "

take the Fat32 file system for example , microsuck had deliberately "crippled" it's own technology in order to limit it's usability so that future users have to switch to the NTFS which is till kept as a "trade secret" , putting competitors such as linux on a disadvantage when it comes to cross platform file sharing because linux doesn't support Ms's confidential system.
the only reason of microsoft's advantage against linux is that MS has successfully exploited the tactics of Fear , uncertainty and Doubt . win users are simply intimidated by the the propaganda that linux is too difficult for mortal folks to handle.

Actually one of the things that disgusts me the most in windows and about micrsoft in general is the Massive none ending security holes that are found in MS products starting from windows (going upwards and downwards)
having windows as your Os is like covering yourself with a fishernet where every hacker/voyeur/etc has free access to your computer , this is simply in-tolerable!

another issue is are the dubious unclean methods that MS implements in order to push rivals , (you all probably know about how Ms tried everything in it's lobbying power to prevent Netscape from becoming established).

then there comes the practice of software bloating and the strategy of releasing compilers and IDE's that produce bloated code (for a simple analogy just compile a simple hello world program in
VC6 and then after it in VC7 or later and see how the binaries will get exponantially bigger and bigger after each new version!) of course the same goes for MS Office and whatnot.

Did i forget to mention the issue of backward incompatibility ?
well it's an established fact that saving a doc in MS office X , will make it unreadable in MS office X-1 , Now how does Bill gates explain this idiocy?

and finally not to mention the obscene fees that Microsuck charges for its in-competent and unprofessional BS , what is left to say more?

Thanks for Reading

You know (IMHO), your post would be better if it wasn't that angry. Both Linux and Windows have ther positive and negative sides. Windows source is closed its development is centrilized, and that can be good in some cases, Linux source is open and is decentralized, and that too can be good. Linux is still can difficult for novice users, especially the ones that doesn't understand computer systems well. If you are an artist, do you have to be interested in programming/TCP/IP protocal/internet mechanics? I think you don't. I know for sure that some of my friends (musicians, and good ones) won't be able to install Linux, since they don't know English well, they aren't used to work with console and the Linux software market isn't that rich and widespread in my region, as well as Linux.
By the way, BillGates (despite the fact many people doesn't like him) did a very good job bringing company to it's current stat. I think, they're losing the control of situation right now (the Windows Vista is too much. The best of the Windows series was a Win98. IMHO), but he has done a great job. He is a good businessman.
As for closed-source concept it's power is in centralization, centralization and total control. This is, of course, it's weakness. The good about the closed-source software is that it's developed by one company, there won't be any incompatibilies, etc... The weakness is that the developing company can suddenly change software in the way you can't accept and you won't be able to do something about it.
As for OpenSource decentralization and full-access is it's weakness and power. The weakness is that there probably will exists to many versions of same program and novice user will be stuck downloading and trying differenta variations of same program withot finding wht he really wants (you know, my ISP has traffic-based payment , so downloading too much isn't always an option). The power of decentralization is that you can modify software in any way, thus creating a new branch, increasing software development speed. The open-source development can be more like an evolution - the best programs will survive. It's good in some cases...
As for doubt and fear... do you know that some people fear the computers? They just don't understand what this thing is doing, and how in the world it is working.
I think It would be good to have a Windows replacement. Something like Win98 clone, opensource, binary compatible and easy to use. The ReactOS will be solution someday, but not right now...

Who are "we"? Did some peaple give you right to speak instead of themselves? Nothing personal, of course, just asking.

YOu know, the users always have a simple solution. It is - "not to buy product you don't like". If no one will buy Microsoft product, it will disappear.

Not sure what you are talking about. Linux has NTFS write-support. So, what's the problem? As for FAT32 - the FAT32 is the only way to install clean system, if the NTFS partition fails to boot badly, since WinXP (for example) installer STILL can't use NTFS partitions to store it's temporary data.

IMHO, the problem is that Microsoft can stimulate their programmers by paying them more. So they can control development speed. By gaining more profit because of full control over its' software distribution, it can control software development better. As I know, there is no such big Linux-based company as Microsoft (i can be wrong here), however more and more of them appears. To make an alternative (replace Microsfot) someone will have to inventa a way to make same amounts of money on the OpenSource software .

Well, right now I'm writing this message from the Slackware 11 system, and I still think that linux can be too difficult for some people. Linux is a great system and wonderful system, it gives you total control, but... As I said, not all the people I know will be able to install and run Linux system. Even something like Mandriva. The problem is that the aren't all english-speaking, not all of them have internet-access, and not all of them will "google" to find an answer for a question.

In commercialized world any rival is a threat to a business. I think any company have a right to prevent rivals from appearing, but only using legal means.

It's still possible to create 8..16 kilbytes large win-applications using VC6 and VC7. The reason of increasing application size is that Microsoft produces helper classes (and tons of them!) to make them their product. Of course, they are making ordinary users from programmers, hide system mechanics etc... But it's possible to understand why are they doing things that way.
I must say that I'm also not very happy with how things change in Microsoft windows. Some years ago it was fine system. I still think that WinAPI is a very good thing too use and a good programming example. But then they wrapped a nice tine API into a big and ugly MFC classes (there was also VCL, it's nicer, but it's another story), then replaced MFC with .NET (20mb of for an empty application is too much!), and invented that damn dll/manifest loading system introduced in WinXP SP2. Although this system was created with good purpose, the only thing it will do is increasing disk usage...

I've always thought that "backward compatibility" meant roughly "ability to use data from older application in newer version", nothing else. As for inability to open new documents in older versions - it's easy. New features were added, internal object structure was changed, so it isn't possible to keep features in the old file format. I think no one will complain about HTML format changes, for example...

As I said before, there is simple solution - If you don't like it, don't buy it.

When I program using microsoft API, and or use microsoft products for programming to me it seems like they have a done a good job making it be very easy for programmers to do GUI. Also there structure is nice for programming if you want to do simple things you can prety much set parameters to NULL. Also searching for there API is centrilized on one site which I find effective for learning.

I don't know GUI programming in linux well (All I know is how to create a window using XOpenDisplay() etc .. ). From my experiences on linux it apears to create an application to do various tasks is very easy (sometimes easier than on windows). However the learning is not that friendly: (1) Material is all over the net; it would be nice to have it more organized (2) I don't really like coding the entire GUI it would be nice to point and click.

Microsoft does have there problems with Programmers interference such as doing something complicated (E.g. Making a driver) is usually much harder to do on windows than on linux (in my experience).

What I think maby their should be some set standards (or atleast commonly distributed in distribution by default or recommended option) that allows for the creation of GUI much more easily on linux. Also some site designed for programers to search sites that are related to linux programming to help organize materials. By making it easier for programmers to make GUI I think there would be more GUI apps on linux and thus making linux much more "easy" for new users to linux.

like I said before I'm new to linux GUI and was just introduced to X11.

have you seen the Ubuntu installer, it basically does everything for you all you have to do is give it stuff like your name and timezone, so if your friends can't do that, then they obviously can't use a computer what so ever

No, I haven't seen Ubuntu. But it requires internet connection with unlimited traffic, right? The internet connection with unlimited download traffic isn't yet awailable in my town. All ISPs offers internet on pay-per-traffic basis. Of course, some local resources are free, but there is small amount of Ubuntu resources.

Excuse me, but I disagree. The ugliest thing (from what I've ever seen) to create GUI is MFC. VCL is much better, but now Borland tries to use .NET, so all versions of C++ Builder and Delphi after version 6 doesn't worth looking at (IMHO). The best GUI library I've seen so far is a Qt (www.trolltech.com). I think you should take a look at it - it's cross-platform, dual-licensed (one license is commercial, while other is open-source), fast, it looks nice, and it certainly beats any other GUI library. It also compiles on Windows/Linux/Mac. Of course, it's only my own opinion...

Anjuta is "point and click" for building gtk frontends and for Qt there is qtdesigner. There are perl modules for both gtk and qt, even a novice like me can write a gui app quite easily.
Ubuntu doesnt need to be connected to the net, the same thing applies to most popular distros, they all work well with no connection and come with just about every app you are likely to need pre-installed. Using older versions of linux and apps isnt a problem either, its not as though you need to apply 50 patches every month to deal with security problems.
A lot of distros also have a console web browser included, text only so, it will probably knock up to 80% off you internet costs. Also applications in linux are genraly a lot smaller, thousands of gui apps are under 1MB, so not a lot of bandwidth is needed.
Cheers,
Stan

Thanks, I'll kepp that in mind...

My mistake, anjuta is an IDE. Glade is a GUI builder for gtk, it works well with Anjuta.
Cheers,
Stan

Erm.....and don't forget the Gambas IDE / GUI designer