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Ok here is the BOTTOM line (for me), when linux is able to play ALL the games that windows can without any b.s. then i WILL switch, and i will do so gladly! linux is great, its faster, more powerful, more stable, and of course... FREE. Vista is CRAP! It's slow, it is annoying, its buggy, and it costs a lot. however, windows plays games and for a gamer that's all it has to do (not do well) lol just do. The best hope for linux on my machine is in a dual boot scenario. but keep up the work linux b/c when you can run games i'll snap my windows cd into pieces and urinate on it then send it back to microshit!!!!!!!!!!


Granted, my opinion and $54725 will get you a basic Escalade

well, it's doubtful the micro$oft owned bungie-soft will make a linux version of halo 2. it wont even run on win-xp because they re-released it as vista only to push those currently gaming on win-xp to buy their latest upgrade.

I don't know, the "I won't switch to Linux because it doesn't play said game" seems like such a dull argument. I can understand something like "Linux does not have said proprietary application", or the more valid "Linux does not support a certain piece of hardware that I need."

When it comes to gaming, why bother with PC games? I mean really, once you buy or build a pc for gaming, after about 1 or 2 years, you will have to spend money again just to keep it able to run the latest games at full speed. I find that if one wants to do gaming, it just makes more sense to have a machine built for gaming from the start, hence consoles. They last a lot longer than PCs when it comes to gaming, no hardware upgrade required, and all games run the same. No threat of any malicious programs either. A gaming console will last 5+ years compared to PCs. Try playing recent gaming titles on a PC that is 2-3 years old. And financially, it just makes sense to do console gaming.

I would rather spend my money on other things, or just save up rather than to buy a new graphics card or more memory, or a new processor just to play said game title. I'd rather own a console, and buy said game, and not have to worry about drivers, enough system resources and such. I'm still looking closely at a Wii.

This is exactly why I consider Windows a toy because the only thing it does somewhat decently is play games. Even though many games that I've used in Windows have to be installed, and sometimes even played, by a user with Admin privelege. If playing recent games is your only reason for having a computer than maybe Windows is the better choice for you. And, forgive my sarcasm, but I have to say: Congratulations on buying a $2000 playstation.

I, too, prefer cosoles for my gaming. I remember when the software companies were trying to keep up with the hardware, and that was fine for gaming because your computer would last as a gaming machine for a couple of years. Now it seems that within a year you might upgrade your memory or video card at least once to keep up with the games.

I keep wondering - are the games even worth that much investment? Another thing, and this might just be me, but it seems like most games have gone beyond the definition of "game" and are quickly reaching the point that they feel more like simulators or even virtual reality. To me a game isn't a game anymore when you can see if the main character has a zit on their forehead.

Well like any other application, it should be noted that only an admin user should be able to add/remove programs. Same under linux: You wouldn't want a user with a non-root privileges to be allowed to make additions or removals of software if they don't need that privilege. Gaming in windows has become a rather double-edge sword. Since the mass computer users were first transitioned over from the days of windows 98 to XP, they made a MAJOR leap (kernel-wise). From a pseudo 32-bit enviornment to a pure multi-tasking 32-bit OS; Windows NT.

The thing is, Windows NT at default was NOT designed for gaming, and was a very powerful and serious OS, up until XP/Vista. Again, the two shining examples of the best and most stable versions of Windows, NT4.0 Workstation, and Windows2000 (NT 5.0). XP, NT5.1 had some changes to allow better performance for games under the NT kernel. The fact that users must run their games in the admin account, is in my opinion due to the software developers of said games, not adapting their installations of the games to properly utilize permissions in an NT enviornment.

Everybody knows in a limited, even in a power user account under windows, usually means that write access to some directories are off limits. Ex: "Program Files" Where all games and other programs are stored. Try even creating a new directory as a limited user in that directory... You can't! The problem is, that games still probably store saves, and other data in that same directory, rather than the user's directory in "Documents and Settings." It might also mean that there are portions of memory addresses that the game tries to access for read/write/storage purposes that might not be available to a non-admin account. That I don't know of, nor do I have any way of proving.

Minus the Blu-ray drive.

I can't justify spending enough money to build a serious computer for a silly game...virtual reality or not, it's just not worth blowing $2000 (or more) so I can run around like an idiot in a virtual world killing virtual people who will accuse me of hacking if I happen to get off a lucky virtual shot while they're attempting to exploit some flaw in the virtual world to give them an unfair advantage against poor virtual me. Yay, I'm so glad I bought that extra 2 GB of DDR2! It really came in handy during the 2 seconds we were actually playing and not typing obscenities to each other for an hour and a half...

I hate to say it, but why blow $2000 on a computer just to install Windows on it? I have to agree...if you want to play games, save yourself the headache and get a console.

While it is true that Windows 2000 turned out to be a great platform for games the operating system itself left much to be desired. Personally, I wont be sorry when games designed for Microsoft run on Linux flawlessly.

Time and time again we here the same old song, that Microsoft needs to be like this or that... only for everything we want to be already available under Linux

Microsoft isn't going to change, why should they. There making money and lots of it and thats all they care about.... the fact that you can't get your game working or anything else for that matter while using their stuff, they couldn't give two shits about as long as your paying them money....

But how I love it when we manage to get a cool game like Call of Duty or some other virtual reality masterpiece working great under Linux...!

They way it should be!

- Perry

ps.
but as for buying consoles or other dedicated game machines... sounds great for simple interfaces, but when you want to get fancy you'll need a keyboard and thats where consoles fall short

What did it leave to be desired? I was referring to working in windows2000. I have used both NT4 and 2000 and they worked beautifully, my usage did not involve any games.

Well thats because some game developers port their games to Linux, such as Id Software's Doom III.

Do they? I don't know about that. I mean consoles these days since the days of the Playstation 2 have USB ports, therefore it would be logical to at least assume that a USB keyboard/mouse should work if plugged in, depending on the game of course. Such as, the console version of Call of Duty, or whatever other shooter games are out these days.

So is it possible that someone can explain to me how windows is regarded as an easy operating system?

Sure, xyz app gives unauthorised access to my computer.

Solution: User sits in the corner, thumb in mouth rocking back and forth, while waiting for Micro$h1te to get round fixing said problem.

Now that's real easy ain't it.

As far as consoles go i'd rather stare at my lcd than stare at a tv it's easier for me to see it that way. Some games don't come out on consoles that do on pc. I have two computers one i'm gonna install linux on because i don't game on it, but the other will have windows until linux can game. i want to play cod4 hellgate london diablo 2 and others.


I never liked consoles b/c i always had trouble reading the print on the tv, it being blurry and whatnot. now there better TVs but i like to game on the PC as far as my computer being a 2000 playstation, can you go from reading email to posting on forums to playing a game to listening to music or do two or three of those at the same time on the same machine, what's that.... no.... thats what i thought.